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  • Terry D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1987
    • 2690

    C1 Axle Flange

    Does anyone know of a company making an axle flange? Or is this a used part only? Don't know if that is correct term, but it is on the axle, bolts to the backing plate. As always Thanks

    Terry
  • Mike M.
    NCRS Past President
    • May 31, 1974
    • 8365

    #2
    Re: C1 Axle Flange

    not being repro'd to my knowledge. you don't mention your c-1's year but chevy pass cars should serve as donor. let us know c-1 years and we can sugest pass car years to go junk yarding for. mike

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    • Terry D.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1987
      • 2690

      #3
      Re: C1 Axle Flange

      Mike
      Sorry, car is a 1962

      Terry

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      • Bill B.
        Expired
        • September 30, 2002
        • 351

        #4
        Re: C1 Axle Flange

        I could be way off base but I had to change my rear nonposi banjo from a passenger series to a 57 corvette banjo. I don't think the previous owner every had the car rolling with it but anyway...I don't think the passenger series item will work. Mike may know better or maybe some special setup passengers might work? In my case, I believe the axles will interchange as these lengths end up being the same but the banjo flanges are located differently on passenger and corvette: hence, this is where the rub comes in. I think the passenger backing plates will work too.

        As I recall the corvette banjo bearing race to flange distance is about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch different. This makes the passenger covers about 3/4 inch deep--are the covette covers shallower? If so, then I would say things don't work. I have the same problem so I hope someone else more knowledgeable than me jumps in.

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        • Bill B.
          Expired
          • September 30, 2002
          • 351

          #5
          Re: C1 Axle Flange

          Mike, please read my other response too. I have a 58 but the banjo came from a 57 corvette posi setup. Do you know of passenger series in which the covers will work for this setup? If I knew exactly what the depth of corvette coverx should be and they are nearly impossible to find I would consider cutting down my current passenger pieces and brazing the pieces back together? To me, they are not a strength piece and keep lubricant from running out. Does this sound dumb to you?

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          • Tom Spurgeon

            #6
            Re: C1 Axle Flange

            From what I've been told, you are all correct to consider using a passenger banjo for a C-1. When we received our '60, it was equipped with a '57 pass banjo. I placed it on eBay and heard from a rear end shop in Tulsa, who ended up buying the unit. They said that the passenger rear end is approximately 1/4" wider than the Vette. Since I was needing the strut towers, I simply looked for the correct unit and found one in Colorado. According to the shop, other than lacking the strut towers (for our '60) and width, everything else is the same.
            Respectfully,
            Tom

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            • Bill B.
              Expired
              • September 30, 2002
              • 351

              #7
              Re: C1 Axle Flange

              Tom, be careful and you can probably make anything work. I know that the banjo perches are not same distance as corvette perches. Passenger perches may be about 1/4 inch more inboard on each side. I don't know if this cants the leafs too much or if it even matters. But, I do know that the bearing race and flange configurations are very notably different on the banjo (although they can use the same bearing). Now, the overall width of the passenger and the corvette banjos will turn out to be the same end-to-end--it is the flange offset. Also note that a passenger banjo flange to perch positions will cause the backing plate wheel cylinder to position at the 12 o'clock position versus canted forward. I still think that a "passenger bearing cover" is too deep to work properly on a corvette banjo. I COULD REALLY BE OFF BASE ON THIS BUT...I don't know what a correct cover should look like. I have never seen one!

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              • Tom P.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1980
                • 1814

                #8
                Re: C1 Axle Flange

                I've been reading all of this discussion and trying to figure out what you are talking about. By axle flange, do you mean the axle bearing retainer which is slipped onto the axle BEFORE the axle bearing gets pressed on?

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                • Roy B.
                  Expired
                  • February 1, 1975
                  • 7044

                  #9
                  Re: C1 Axle Flange

                  With out removing the pumpkin to see if a banjo is really a posi banjo unit having oil baffles, but for early 57. I look to see which direction the banjo flanges are installed.
                  A posi banjo flange is on in one way ,were a non-posi banjo the flange is TURNED around.
                  The axle retainer plate is near flat looking for the no-posi banjo
                  where as the axle retainer plate for a posi banjo is more deep or recessed 58 up?
                  Yes a car 56 or 57 banjo will work under a 56 to 62 Corvette, but the mounting plate for the springs sit to far out causing the springs to cantor.
                  59 up has the traction bar supports
                  62 has no drain plug posi or non posi
                  From 53 to 62 there were four design changes to the banjo
                  53-55 first design
                  56-57 second
                  58-61 third
                  61 fourth
                  further input is welcomed

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                  • Roy B.
                    Expired
                    • February 1, 1975
                    • 7044

                    #10
                    Re: C1 Axle Flange terry yes *NM*

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                    • Roy B.
                      Expired
                      • February 1, 1975
                      • 7044

                      #11
                      Re: C1 Axle Flange terry no

                      I'm sorry no that is called the bearing retainer cover . I call a flange the end area of the banjo

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                      • Terry D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • May 31, 1987
                        • 2690

                        #12
                        Re: C1 Axle Flange

                        Tom
                        Yes, that is what I mean. It goes on the axle first, has four holes, bolts thru the backing plate and thru the axle end plate or flange as I guess it is called. Bought axles at Carlisle from fellow NCRS member and was told that the "bearing retainer" was easy to come by, guess not.
                        Terry

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