What is the significance of the 3 digit number that is penciled-in on the upper right hand side of the tank sticker, and how does it relate to the V.I.N.
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Re: 1967 gas tank sticker
Brent------
I believe that the number to whhich you refer is the "job number". This was an internal St Louis numbering system which started with "1" and continued through "500" before starting over again at "1". It was a simplified system for in-plant identification of cars and components destined therefore. Sometimes you will find this number in yellow crayon on various components of the car.
The number does not relate to the VIN in any definitive or predictable sort of way, except to the extent that they would sequence up more-or-less in "lock-step". In other words, if VIN 10286 had job number 001, then VIN 10287 would have job number 002, and so-on. Theoretically, if you assumed that VIN 00001 had job number 001, then you could calculate the job number for any successive car. However, that's just theoretical. In practice, I think that there were factors which upset this correlation. St. Louis didn't care, at all, about correlation. If they had, they might just as well have used the 5 digit VIN, or derivative thereof, for the job number.In Appreciation of John Hinckley -
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Joe, Thank you very much for your info. I had heard years ago that it was a job number, but someone told me today that this job number was supposed to be within 50 points of the V.I.N. I took my tank sticker off myself 30 years ago, and the job number is just over 500 points away from the last 3 digits of the V.I.N. BUT, your info sure does allow me to rest easier!!!! Thanx, BrentComment
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Brent, Job numbers on 67's went from 1-500, no number larger then 500 was used, so if your number is 500 off then your vin should end in a number larger then 500. DennisComment
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Re: 1967 gas tank sticker
Body Shop job numbers were assigned sequentially when the underbody went on the line in the Body Shop, but physical sequence was usually lost by the time the body came out of the Paint Shop and went on the Trim Line (where the VIN number was assigned).Comment
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Re: 1967 gas tank sticker
My 67 vin# is 2345 and the body job number is 325. The body number is 20 less than the vin, so I guess it really does not corralate, or that each itteration of 500 bodys is off by 5 to reduce the body number from 2345, which would be equil to my vin# 2345, to body #2325.
More confussion
JonComment
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Jon, Thanks to you and all who have responded. It is really not more confussion. From the information I am receiving, it appears that the job number is just another and seperate way of identifying a numbers matching car. It seems as though the job number should appear the same in several places on the car, but this number does not have to match other numbers; such as VIN. NOW, can anyone answer the question of which places does this job number appear and is it the same in each location????Comment
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Re: 1967 gas tank sticker
It's usually found on the angled engine side of the passenger's toe pan, on the gas tank side of the rear vertical bulkhead, and on the inside of both doors.Comment
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John, Thank you for your rapid response. This all sounded great until I just took all the covers off of my car to look for these numbers in the places you described so well. I have a "215" in all of the places except the gas tank sticker. That number is "222". I took the orginal tank out myself and scraped the sticker off some 30 years ago. Can you explain that? Thanx, BrentComment
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Re: 1967 gas tank sticker
Brent -
The Body Shop job number became insignificant as soon as the body left the Paint Shop; when the body was introduced onto the Trim Line (and its physical sequence was "locked-in" relative to the units ahead of and behind it until it came off the line), it was assigned a "sequence number", which identified it (and all its subassemblies that were fed to the main line, like the chassis, engine, gas tank, instrument panel, seats, door trim panels, etc.); that was the only number that mattered from that point on, as it synchronized the entire final assembly system and all its feeder lines. That's probably the "222" on the tank sticker; the gas tank subassembly area had to know whether it was a coupe or a convertible, as the filler necks were different.Comment
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John, Thank you again for your vast knowledge. I can rest easy again. Do I understand you correctly though, that the "215" on all the body panels usually matches the tank sticker, but in my case something in production got a little out of order, and several other cars were put in front of mine during assembly? Thanx, BrentComment
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Re: 1967 gas tank sticker
Brent,
The body "job number" 215 on the parts of the car were to number the pile of body parts,then fit and paint them together,then the trim line assigned "job number 222" was given to your car as it lost its place in line by seven places from 215 car in body shop, to the 222nd(closer to your Vin)car for assembly.
what is your Vin
X724 ?
215 and 222 equals 437 ? It usally equals around 500
My guess your car sat out of prodution? =63 cars
My 67 Vin 606 body job 398 ,trim job 104 pushed 2 cars ahead by Vin 398+104=502 1-500
Thats how I think it worked anyway
FrankComment
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Re: 1967 gas tank sticker
Brent -
All bets were off for maintaining the Body Shop sequence when the body entered the Paint Shop; it could "loop" through the system any number of times, depending on whether it needed seam repair after prime oven or first color oven, and get "out of sequence", which was quite frequent. Very few bodies went "straight through" the Paint Shop without requiring repair.Comment
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John, Sounds likely. Thanx again, BrentComment
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Frank, I don't understand how you arrived at my VIN from the data, but it is x725. You don't have to explain it again, but if you would try another tack, I might get it. Thank you, BrentComment
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