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[Mark Milner]

Rosanna Danna time here

It looks like I was off on the wrong auction. I was defending the wrong one. 4609468757.

The only reason I defend it at all is that it is very straightforward. The only questionable item is using NOS, but if you bought something 10 years ago for a project, it would be NOS. Unless you checked if it was available, you would not know that since Chevy has dropped a lot of parts.

The auction in question, 8034364867, has Kelly as the winner and it is a bit steep and like you said, does have a description that I would never do. "Super Rare!" -- not hardly.




Kelly's Washers - 8034364867

[Michael H.]

Re: Rosanna Danna time here

Mark,

This seller has sold a lot of these washers with the same tactics. I looked at his feedback and clicked on all of his past auctions and there were at least 15 for the same shock washers. Most have been selling for around $50 a pair. I think EVERYONE that has a few sets of these should list them on ebay and describe them as being CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FROM GM. I don't have a problem with anyone paying serious money for items that really are discontinued and "Super Rare" but this we don't need.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=domperignoncham

[Donald T.]

Re: Rosanna Danna time here

Mark,

I agree with you. I saw that other one, and it didn't really bother me. The NOS description is debatable, but that seller may very well not even know the parts are still available. On the other hand, I have seen the "super rare" one listed continually for months. Obviously, this seller is just buying them from GM for a couple of bucks and then listing them with a deceptive description in order to take advantage of the uninformed.

Rosanna Danna? Careful or you will date yourself!

[Chuck G.]

Re: NOS shock washers on ebay

I guess I'm the guilty one, or one of the guilty ones. I deleted my previous post because I posted a link to my EBAY home page, not to my auction.

Last week, I listed about 16 items on EBAY. Among the items was a pair of these washers. I listed them for a $5.00 opening bid with no reserve.

They were bid up and sold at about $33.00. I was amazed.

I bought a bag of them. Used a pair on my 63 and a pair on my 69. Kept a pair for spares, and sold a pair on EBAY.

The fellow who deleted his post sent me an EMail, stating, in effect: "did I know you could buy these new for about $4.XX each". I replied, in effect: "yes, I did, and have listed them at no reserve with a $5.00 opening bid. I have no control over EBAY auctions".

I didn't list them a "RARE", etc. I just wanted to get rid of them. I do EBAY for fun, not profit. I might also add that on all of the previously mentioned auctions, I had NO reserves.

Won a few, lost a few. On many items, I would have done better at Carlisle. Chuck

[Joe L.]

Re: NOS shock washers on ebay

Chuck------

As I mentioned previously and on numerous other occasions, I do not fault the seller for most of these situations in which items sell for way more than they're worth. You started your auction at a very fair price; if folks want to bid it up from there to wherever, so be it. I never blame the seller for these sort of situations, even if I don't know the seller from Adam.

Even if a seller starts an auction at a price that's too high or establishes a reserve price that's too high, that's ok, too. The buyers' remedy for this sort of situation is not to bid on it. That's a VERY simple solution.

[Donald T.]

Re: NOS shock washers on ebay

Chuck,

I do not think you are "one of the guilty ones". My rant from yesterday was not directed at your listing, and I don't think there was anything wrong with your ad. Your description was accurate and honest. You even offered a satisfaction guarantee. What more could a bidder want? If they bid too much for the item, then that is their fault just as Joe stated.

There is nothing wrong with making an honest buck. My objection was to the other ad, which had a deceptive description. He used the terms NOS, super rare, and survivor in order to deceive bidders for financial gain. I just don't think that's right.

[Geoff C.]

Don who was that other fellow? *NM*

[Donald T.]

Re: Don who was that other fellow?

Doc,

Here is the current listing. Seller has been relisting the same "super rare" shock washers for months. Looks like he already has two bids




Shock Washers

[Michael H.]

Re: Don who was that other fellow?

Don,

Not sure but I think the problem with this goes a little deeper. I checked his feedback and looked at his previous sales for shock washers. Seems like one bidder, the current high bidder, is almoat always involved in the bidding. You don't suppose he's getting a little help from a friend, do you?

[Donald T.]

Re: Don who was that other fellow?

Good catch Michael! I missed that.

Surely, you are not suggesting that such a fine upstanding member of the community would stoop schill bidding are you?

[Michael H.]

Re: Don who was that other fellow?

I'm trying to think of how Tom DeLay or Ken Lay would answer that question. Lets just say the man must really be hungry.