I guess I'd have to ask where a 1955

[Loren L.]

body received fender scoops that had to be removed.

[Kent K.]

EX-122 was the 1953 Waldorf car

It had the fender scoops that were removed. Those imitation air inlets reappeared on the 1956 Corvette and lasted through the '57 model year.
Regards,
Kent #6201

[Joseph T.]

Re: EX-122 was the 1953 Waldorf car

Kent

Can you post a picture of that EX 122 show only fender scoop that was removed..regardless of condition.

I have seen headlight cones made for the Bill Mitchell SR2 and am curious if they have the same type material.

I would guess they were both made in the styling department.

Is that the scoop you are referring to in the picture below?

Thanks,

Joe

[Kent K.]

Re: EX-122 was the 1953 Waldorf car

Joe,

Posting 2 photos of, what appears to be, the left scoop. Steve joined the experimental fiberglass program at the Tech Center upon its initial formation and finished his career in the automotive industry there. How he was involved with EX-122 is a long story only some of which is in the video sold through NCRS.

Anyway, here is the top side photo (a little blurry).

Kent #6201

[Kent K.]

The reverse (under) side of the scoop *NM*

[Loren L.]

The Waldorf car was EX-52. EX122

was not even NAMED that number until 1956 when the outgoing head of Chevy Experimental, Russ Sanders, purchased the car before moving to his new job as Director of Engineering, Rochester Products. The car began life as Engineering #3951 - VIN # 002; the frame was replaced after Belgian Block testing and before Russ purchased it, it received a new 1955 body and interior (probably from one of the late 55's that were ordered to serve as chassis for the 1956 Daytona # 5 & 6 cars), a 1955 V8 and Powerglide - the purchase price was $2275.09.
Next time you get a chance to look at the Kerbeck fraud, you might want to drop to the ground and check out the oil pan of the 265 cu in V8 that still resides in the engine compartment - or I could send you a picture.

[Joseph T.]

Re: The Waldorf car was EX-52. EX122

Loren..was EX122 red at one time later in life..and featured in a Restorer article way back with frame #3..if so..was that the same car as the Motorama car..and is that the Kerbeck car?

Joe

[Joseph T.]

Re: The reverse (under) side of the scoop

Kent..thanks for the post..the color and texture are similar to the headlight cones I have seen.

Joe

[Kent K.]

Re: The Waldorf car was EX-52. EX122

Loren,

I'm sorry, didn't mean to strike a nerve. We fondly refer to the Waldorf car as being EX-122. Whatever the designation of it was at the time, it is not the red job with the '55 engine since there is most likely no original Waldorf car part remaining on it. The whole point of my post in this thread was there is at least one piece remaining from the car (photos posted previously). FWIW, there were two Show cars during the 1953 Motorama era according to Steve Koss and they were rotated, or exchanged as necessary if one couldn't be prepared for a show, the other would be used. Never, from anything I've read, has this information been published. Has anyone heard this from other sources? What happened to the other car? Don't you love mysteries?

Regards,
Kent #6201

[Loren L.]

Joe, it left GM painted red with a replacement

frame, a 1955 body & interior, a V8 (stamped 0215185F55FG), etc. and was a new car. GM issued the "EX" to call out the fact that this was NOT a production vehicle. The "Motorama" tag got attached because of the memory of Russ Sanders - who reviewed the material of John Amgwert's "The Early Corvette" article BEFORE it was published and agreed that he had been in error. He also acknowledged Premo's burn test on the body of the Motorama car because he had been at the test.
EX-122 WAS a singular example of a "one-off " car that was perverted in 2003 for pr.

[Loren L.]

"Fondly refer to the Waldorf car as being EX-122"

Who is "we"? The Waldorf car was EX-52; the "other" car was EX-53 and it was assigned to Canadian car show duty. You've showed pictures of a piece of fiberglass; is there a picture ANYWHERE of either car with fender scoops?
I knew Steve Koss and time with him on many occasions and never did I hear any story about scoops; in fact, he may have been the one who provided the initial hint about the Motorama body being used for the "burn test".

[Loren Smith]

Re: "Fondly refer to the Waldorf car as being EX-1

Here is a link to John Amgwert's article, which tells the whole story:

http://homepage.mac.com/kirsch_california/CORVETTES/PhotoAlbum29.html

[Kent K.]

OK, so I have misstated

Loren,

You wrote "You've showed pictures of a piece of fiberglass; is there a picture ANYWHERE of either car with fender scoops?"

Sure, look at the picture of the car photographed during '53 Motorama on page 35 of John Amgwert's article and Joe's post above. The fender scoops were there. Steve cut at least one of them out, shoved it into his shirt and kept it for many years. Whether it was EX-52, EX-53 or whatever, it is the earliest remaining piece of a Corvette that I'm aware of. If there are more pieces of those cars, it would be enlightening to learn.

Steve was a very close friend of mine and I could listen to his stories endlessly. We only lived a few miles apart on the west coast of Florida at the time. His wife, Ginny, still communicates with us on a limited basis. She said Steve wanted me to have the scoop and his buck knife when he died. She gave them to me shortly after his funeral and I treasure them both. Gee, I really miss him!

Regards,
Kent

[Joseph T.]

Re: OK, so I have misstated

I read Amgwerts excellant recap of the early cars..and I am still confused.

If I understand his final statement about 1953 production Corvette VIN #002 designated tracking # 3951..

He is saying VIN # 002 is believed to be..EX122.

Did I read that right?

[Patrick H.]

Re: OK, so I have misstated

Joe,

You read that right.

Realize, however, that (as I understand it) no parts of Corvette #002 still exist on the collection of Corvette parts known as EX-122 that the Kerbecks currently own. As various parts of #002 were refurbished or replaced prior to its eventual sale by GM, it all ended up being replaced.

Patrick