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  • Christopher R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 31, 1975
    • 1599

    1962 Engine Pad

    Good news: Found an "870" engine block on EBay with the right casting date for my car.

    Bad news: The pad is stamped for a passenger car ("SA"). Flint and the right date. But the suffix is off 1 letter. Nice factory broach marks. Also stamped with about 6 other digits not in a line. Looks like a child playing with a stamp. About 6 little numbers stamped at random all over the pad. They're not in the same plane, or facing the same direction.

    What would you do with this pad? The block is now at the machine shop and is starting to be machined.

    I'm thinking I'll just deck the block, and wipe out all the numbers. Then leave the pad blank. Hate to wreck factory broach marks. But I don't know what to do about the other numbers. I can't think of a way to make "SA" to "RC", "RD", or "RE."

    Any ideas?
  • William C.
    NCRS Past President
    • May 31, 1975
    • 6037

    #2
    Re: 1962 Engine Pad

    Let's see, If the broach marks are good, that's 38 points more than you will get with a blank pad, and it cost's money to get the block decked. Why bother?
    Bill Clupper #618

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    • Mike M.
      NCRS Past President
      • May 31, 1974
      • 8365

      #3
      Re: 1962 Engine Pad

      clup's advice is sound if you intend to go with the "S" block. my motors manual states that in 62, pass cars with 327 and std shift were stamped with an "R".and the pass cars didn't get vin#'s stamped on the pad till later in the 60's.take it from there. mike

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      • Roy B.
        Expired
        • February 1, 1975
        • 7044

        #4
        Re: 1962 Engine Pad

        I've seen years ago a few Corvettes with no pad numbers , but they were original in every other way (block# & date) . I also ordered a 283 engine for a 57 I had years ago over the dealer parts department and had the same thing (blank). Asking them about the blank pad I was told that they came that way because if replacing a warranty block it would not have it because they stamped it to the vehicle HP and serial number if it was warranted . I also in 1972 bought TWO LT1's long block and they also had no numbers on the pad (blank).
        But now that we're down to broach lines! ! That's why I think you see funny looking stampings on what is thought to be a original engine which "would" have those broach marks , it might be a over the counter engine from GM that was replaced ?

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        • Verne Frantz

          #5
          Re: 1962 Engine Pad

          "pass cars didn't get vin#'s stamped on the pad till later in the 60's.take it from there"

          If it was a 300hp, they did. We've been through this before.

          I don't believe I'm reading this. "how can I change a letter to make it look original?"

          The next question is, "what would be the right numbers to have stamped in my repro trim tag to match the way the car is now????????"

          Then the next question is, "Who can I contact to make up fake original documents for my car with all the right codes?"

          Next step: "How do I sign up for Barrett-Jackson when I'm done r-e-s-t-o-r-i-n-g this car?"

          Where are the hobby police???

          Better question:.................... Where have the ethics gone? We're not building model cars here, buying parts from other kits to make our model into what we want. We're supposed to be restoring cars to the way they were originally built. Would anyone be interested in buying that car after all the numbers have been changed? I don't think so. So, why is there a free flow of advice as to how to do it?

          sorry, but this sort of thing really gets my dander up............

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          • Mike M.
            NCRS Past President
            • May 31, 1974
            • 8365

            #6
            Re: 1962 Engine Pad

            roy: over the counter small blocks of the 50's and early 60's usually didn't have any machine assembly data stamped on the pad. by 1972 i've felt that chevy stamped over the counter small blocks with the CE suffix.i just pulled a 1972 cast dated 0010 cast #'s over the counter LT1 out of my old 57 vette that i installed in the mid 70's and its a CE pad.mike

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            • Roy B.
              Expired
              • February 1, 1975
              • 7044

              #7
              Re: 1962 Engine Pad

              Well mike that makes my point , 71 may have been the last years for it then like I said about my 71 LT1, do you agree??

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              • Verne Frantz

                #8
                Re: 1962 Engine Pad

                Is it possible that those "six little numbers stamped all over the pad" might be a passenger car VIN derivitive? Not all plants used gang holders. What are the numbers?

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                • Terry D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • May 31, 1987
                  • 2690

                  #9
                  Amen Verne!! *NM*

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                  • Tom D.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • September 30, 1981
                    • 2126

                    #10
                    Search Archives for "clone" or "tribute"

                    See archives for a long discussion about clones and "tributes". Starts with mention of an article in AUTOWEEK... about a month or two ago.

                    Tom
                    4889
                    https://MichiganNCRS.org
                    Michigan Chapter
                    Tom Dingman

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                    • William Liddle

                      #11
                      Re: 1962 Engine Pad

                      When you create an organization that rewards originality and heaps praise on the car with rare options...what did you expect to happen? We don't have a problem with buying bolts with the correct head markings or buying a repro part as long as it looks just like the original but look down our noses at someone trying to make the engine compartment as original as possible. your problem should lie with the guy creating something that wasn't and not picking on the one that is restamping a 327/300. This ain't a perfect world and as long as the value is up for rare optioned autos then expect the worse. Approx. 34 1967 Vettes on the Bloomington judging field this year and 28-29 of them were big blocks. Something wrong with that ratio but I'll bet that more than 1/2 of them top flighted. Learn to live with it.

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                      • Roy B.
                        Expired
                        • February 1, 1975
                        • 7044

                        #12
                        Re: 1962 Engine Pad Oh William

                        Your beginning to see the light while others like the dark

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                        • Verne Frantz

                          #13
                          Re: 1962 Engine Pad

                          Bill,
                          I chose not to live with that ethic. Don't worry, you have plenty of company on that train without me as a passenger. I hope you feel comfortable.

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                          • Verne Frantz

                            #14
                            Re: 1962 Engine Pad Oh William

                            IF that's being in the dark Roy, praise be the blindness, for you'll never catch me restamping somthing that wasn't, to make it to appear to be something that was. That's not called restoration. IT's called greed, because points equate to dollars.

                            One thing leads to another. Once you cross the first line, there's no reason not to cross them all.

                            I'd sooner sell heroin on the street. At least the buyers know exactly what they're buying.....

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                            • Verne Frantz

                              #15
                              Re: 1962 Engine Pad

                              "your problem should lie with the guy creating something that wasn't and not picking on the one that is restamping a 327/300."

                              Can you explain that "logic"??

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