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  • Patrick H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1989
    • 11608

    1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

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    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
    71 "deer modified" coupe
    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
    2008 coupe
    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.
  • Leif A.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1997
    • 3607

    #2
    Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

    Those welch plugs are pretty infamous for leaking. Though, not NCRS correct, I had mine restored by Phil Cancilla @ Custom Rebuilt Carburetor in New Jersey. He uses an epoxy resin to seal them. They don't leak.
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    Leif
    '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
    Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43193

      #3
      Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

      Patrick-------


      Well, if you're a Q-Jet guy you ought to understand this problem very well. These plugs on a Holley fuel bowl are the same type of "spun-in" plugs used on the float bowl assembly of Q-Jets on the forward side of the inlet fitting and in four locations on the bottom of the float bowl. The only way I know of to repair them is with epoxy as Leif has mentioned.

      These plugs usually consist of a small, slightly tapered plug with an o-ring seal and a "spun in" retainer on the outside surface. It's the retainer that's the problem with a repair; once it's removed I know of no way to replace it. With an epoxy repair, the plug and retainer are usually removed and replaced with epoxy.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 11608

        #4
        Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

        I had thought about sending the carb to Phil, but the owner was hoping to drive the car a bit this summer. I think Phil is about 2 months out.
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43193

          #5
          Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

          Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
          I had thought about sending the carb to Phil, but the owner was hoping to drive the car a bit this summer. I think Phil is about 2 months out.
          Patrick-------

          If he wants to drive the car, my suggestion would be to obtain a NEW Holley SERVICE carb. In fact, I'd leave this on the car indefinitely for driving. NOTHING makes a car run like a new carburetor. NOTHING.

          Then, the original carb can be repaired/restored with no time crunch. Keep it for judging purposes. After all, it's pretty easy to remove and re-install a carburetor.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Brian M.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • February 1, 1997
            • 1837

            #6
            Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

            Or put adjustable float bowls on it and have the originals repaired.

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            • Mark F.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • July 31, 1998
              • 1468

              #7
              Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

              Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
              ...One, can these be repaired, and if so by whom?...
              Not the same Holley list #s as yours, but Craig Woodruff (Youngstown, OH) did my 3x2s 20 years ago...
              no deducts thru 1 Regional and a National after rebuild/restoration.
              Nice original-looking patina and they Still work fine...

              Woodruff Carburetor Specialties is a Carburetor Restoration Service in Youngstown, Ohio and surrounding areas. We provide Carburetor Restoration, Carburetor Rebuilds, and Carburetor Performance Services. Contact us today!
              thx,
              Mark

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              • Tim G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • March 1, 1990
                • 1358

                #8
                Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

                Phil turned my L79 carb around in 14 days back in February.

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                • Leif A.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 31, 1997
                  • 3607

                  #9
                  Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

                  Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                  I had thought about sending the carb to Phil, but the owner was hoping to drive the car a bit this summer. I think Phil is about 2 months out.
                  Patrick,
                  Give Phil or Joe a call @ (732) 356-4333. I think you'll find you can get the carb back in a much shorter time...probably less than a month.
                  Leif
                  '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                  Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                  • John H.
                    Frequent User
                    • July 31, 1985
                    • 62

                    #10
                    Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

                    Phil just did my 3810 carb in 3 weeks. He said he's getting caught up after some longer lead times in the past.

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                    • Patrick H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1989
                      • 11608

                      #11
                      Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

                      Originally posted by John Harp (9049)
                      Phil just did my 3810 carb in 3 weeks. He said he's getting caught up after some longer lead times in the past.
                      It was 2 months last year for the 63.
                      I can check with him and see what the current lead time might be.
                      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                      71 "deer modified" coupe
                      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                      2008 coupe
                      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                      • Bill M.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 1989
                        • 1317

                        #12
                        Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

                        It kills me to see the epoxy on the 3810 but I guess that is the road we must take. Judges wlll deduct.

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                        • William F.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • June 9, 2009
                          • 1354

                          #13
                          Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

                          Leif,
                          I can see you have replaced POA or earlier type AC valve with the "POA upgrade" pressure sensing sensing system. How is this working? I have had one for 12 years, worked fine till 2 years ago, now either bad pressure sensing switch or bad expansion valve. I plan on first replacing pressure switch with a thermostat that turns compressor on and off=also sold by Old Air and see what happens.
                          Thanks

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                          • Leif A.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • August 31, 1997
                            • 3607

                            #14
                            Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

                            Originally posted by William Ford (50517)
                            Leif,
                            I can see you have replaced POA or earlier type AC valve with the "POA upgrade" pressure sensing sensing system. How is this working? I have had one for 12 years, worked fine till 2 years ago, now either bad pressure sensing switch or bad expansion valve. I plan on first replacing pressure switch with a thermostat that turns compressor on and off=also sold by Old Air and see what happens.
                            Thanks
                            William,
                            The A/C system on my car had been converted to R134 before my ownership over 12 years ago. The system works just fine...when I use it. Typically, I'm a two window down, ride around kind of guy. I rarely (like maybe 3 or 4 times) have used the A/C since I've owned her.
                            Leif
                            '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                            Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                            • Timothy B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • April 30, 1983
                              • 5177

                              #15
                              Re: 1967 Holley 3810 fuel bowl leak

                              Patrick, I think the 3810 you have pictured is a service replacement carburetor.

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