Need an opinion, do you believe this is real?

[Mike G.]

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I can't believe that there are SIXTEEN bids on this thing and it's already over $30K. The power steering is probably in the same place as the original oil pan....was probably never there. Is there any NCRS members that live near this car? I wish I was Trump rich...I'd fly out there and look over the thing myself just to make sure it's a fake. Then again....the church parking lot may have a lot to do with it....it seems to work in Pastor Mike's favor LOL!!

its not an lt1 but its still a nice 70 convertible. the car is worth over 30k.

[Jeremy D.]

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I really like the way they ran the rear brake lines OVER the parking brake cable...I dunno, but I sure as heck wouldn't pay 30 grand for a hackjob like that car, convertible or not. WAAY too much of Bubba's meanderings... The way that hardtop is sitting on the rear deck with light shining through the bottom seal, it wouldn't surprise me if that car was originally a coupe.....THAT would be funny. It would go right along with the rest of the screwups. Just to eliminate any confusion, CTK blocks came out in early May. I owned one of the last CTU's built, #80##, in late April '70, when Chevrolet recorded the changeover ocurred. The JM and Dobbins' books confirm it as well.

[Michael D.]

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...I can't believe that there are SIXTEEN bids on this thing and it's already over $30K....

Regardless of her actual pedigree and the BS in the listing, she's a nice Corvette; she's a bumper car; and she's a convertible. Hence the bids.

[Tom S.]

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Nice driver... Not an LT-1..To much B.S. for me, the guy is over selling the car! Why?

[Ridge K.]

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Just a quick comment about "missing power steering" without throwing in any input as to whether ot not this is a real LT1. There are jillions of people in this club more qualified than myself to evaluate it's authenticity. I just wanted to address the "where's the power steering".
On my own "barn find", a 1967 427 tri-power, that had been put up in a barn in 1979, it too was missing it's power steering. My car had been drag raced in it's first few years of it's life, and back in the late 1960s, if was very common for drag racers to disable their power steering, if the car was so equipped. On a 12 second pass, at 110 miles per hour or so, the last thing the driver wants is a power steering belt flying off. Another reason is that, if the powerplant is capable of 6,500 rpm or so, power steering pumps, much like air conditioning compressors, do not withstand that kind of rpm load. Drag racers in my day of racing (late 1960s, early 1970s) commonly removed power steering systems.

[Dick W.]

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And then there is the issue of leather (I believe) seat covers with a trim tag calling for vinyl.

[Jeremy D.]

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This is a wonderful case of STUPID PEOPLE PAYING STUPID MONEY FOR STUPID CARS......Gee, you'd think it would be on one of the musclecar auction shows......it would look GREAT in HD!!!

[Mike G.]

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also the speedometer is out of a 72 to 75. 68 to 71 had the green tint like the tach in the picture. the pulleys are not the deep groove type found on an lt-1. it has an aluminum radiator, expantion tank, and metal shroud. no lt1 had any of the three. this is not an lt-1. it is a nice 70 driver that should bring 35 to 40k. i could go on all day and pick this car apart but its not necessary. its clearly not an lt-1

[Dick W.]

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Your are right Mike, if it is pretty and shiney, and will run out ok, it will bring way North of $30k. I have seen several 70-72's a lot worse than that car bring over $30k

[Ridge K.]

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As a followup to the question of the 1970 Corvette "alleged LT1" listed on ePay auction #260229669923:
Out of curiosity, and also my desire to add a 1970 LT1 to my collection, I sent the seller a question, thru the "ask seller a question" feature, asking him if he would stand behind his declaring that the car is an "LT1", with a money-back guarantee. I did not question the authenticy of the Corvette, or criticize his auction description in any manner. I simply asked if he would stand behind his words, in a courteous, emailed question.
A few hours later, I received a very rude, and hateful reply, with language that is not appropriate in this forum, to repeat. I will share these few sentences in his reply, with readers of this forum:
"Don't email me again with your crap and go sell some more Corvette literature and ......
You armchair Corvette "experts" are self proclaimed pains in the ass.
If you email me again I will certainly turn you in for harrassment. Leave me alone and go bother someone else"
Keep in mind, that I never said anything critical about the car, or the auction listing. I only asked if he would stand behind his announcement that it was an LT1.
My late Dad always told me that "son, if your going to speak down to a grown man, only do it to his face, and in person, never over the telephone, or thur the mail". I always felt that only a coward, threatens others thru emails, or thru the telephone. I will state this: As a retired auto dealer, I would not recommend to anyone looking at this auction, to do business with this person. I now am convinced that the car is in fact a fraud, and the sellers reaction speaks volumes about the person. Notice I said "person" as he is clearly, not a man.

[Donald T.]

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I would imagine the seller has received quite a few emails questioning his claims. However, that's no excuse for that kind of response. I would report the seller to ebay if I were you.

[D S.]

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Mike McCaul ,who originated this post, told me in an email that the seller was rude to him, too. Like Ridge Kaiser described Mike said he was polite in his query about the car. Yes, this person definitely needs to be reported to eBay for unprofessional and over-aggressive behavior. How about all of those who got rude responses from the seller do just that?

[Jeremy D.]

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I just wish we could get to the buyer(s) and let them know what they're buying is a very questionable item....even though I have not corresponded with the seller, I would be happy to file a complaint or whatever, just because the photos alone speak a thousand words....and they all point to one big lie. It's obvious that the car is a throw-together, and the seller is falsely advertising it.

Although, another part of me says the dumb idiots bidding on the car should get what they deserve....anyone looking to buy a '70 LT-1 convertible better know what it is they're buying and do their homework....they obviously haven't.

And another part of me thinks this seller got some friends to bid the car up and try to stimulate some belief that it's real....I would LOVE to see who the bidders are.........

[D S.]

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In reality I was sort of the one behind all this. Mike McCaul and I assist Juliet Page of the 1970 Corvette Registry to locate and try to register 1970 Corvettes that aren't on the Registry. I found this one and two others on eBay and sent the links to Mike. Mike got curious when he spotted some inconsistencies and was concerned as to how Juliet was going to handle this Corvette as being an LT-1 when it may well not be. The Registry does not want to erroneously list 1970 Corvettes that aren't what they are said to be. I suggested he run it through this NCRS TDB first. Lo and behold.....

The problem with contacting buyers is that someone may get into more trouble with eBay than the seller. Ebay has a one-sided love affair with sellers. And, true, the bidders have the 'Buyer Beware' onus so let 'em bid it up. To date the reserve hasn't been met and as unscrupulous as this seller appears to be he may well have "friends" who are rigging the bids. I can't imagine this seller having friends with anyone other than Lucifer.

As much as we are concerned for those bidders our best alternative is to be objective and watch as the saga unfolds. Hopefully the reserve won't be met and then someone can forward this link to all of them after the auction ends. Only then will one find out who the seller's "friends" are.

[Jeremy D.]

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THAT sounds like an excellent option....if the seller is the idiot he's presented to be, he's got the reserve up in the $80K+......if it sells for that, I think that classifies as bonafide fraud & robbery!