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  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 27, 2009
    • 7073

    How to max judging points on igniton on '67

    I am considering how is the best way to max my flight judging points (or minimize deducts in this case) for my '67 L71 coupe regarding the ignition parts. The car is supposed to have TI, but it was removed long ago and a Petronix put in it's place with a ballast resistor. For various monetary and PITA issues I do not want to replace the Petronix and go back to TI. The car has the TI distributor (as per the band), but has a generic black distributor cap and coil (no Delco marks) without the capacitor it should have. I am thinking about getting a '67 TI dist. cap (the brownish red one I think), and a '67 Delco-Remy replacement coil (not TI, but regular resistor type, as the TI coil won't work on my setup) and putting the capacitor back in. Is that the best way to go, or is it not any better than what I have now, judging wise? I know all you points gurus have ideas, thanks for any.
    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico
  • Jack C.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 30, 1992
    • 1090

    #2
    Re: How to max judging points on igniton on '67

    Mike, all the dist. caps are black, except the L88 and the ZL1.
    Jack Corso
    1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
    Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021

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    • John H.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • December 1, 1997
      • 16513

      #3
      Re: How to max judging points on igniton on '67

      Mike -

      I think the best you can do is to get a correct "no R" distributor cap (black).

      Judges know it had T.I. originally, so you'll get deductions for:

      T.I. amplifier and harness missing

      Configuration deduction for the distributor, regardless of the band (no T.I. present, so it's not a T.I. distributor).

      Configuration deduction for the non-T.I. coil

      Deduction for the hole for the ballast resistor screw.

      Note that a missing component loses all of the condition points in addition to the originality points.

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      • Michael J.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 27, 2009
        • 7073

        #4
        Re: How to max judging points on igniton on '67

        Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
        Mike -

        I think the best you can do is to get a correct "no R" distributor cap (black).

        Judges know it had T.I. originally, so you'll get deductions for:

        T.I. amplifier and harness missing

        Configuration deduction for the distributor, regardless of the band (no T.I. present, so it's not a T.I. distributor).

        Configuration deduction for the non-T.I. coil

        Deduction for the hole for the ballast resistor screw.

        Note that a missing component loses all of the condition points in addition to the originality points.
        OK, so the missing TI amp and harness is -6 (O&C), coil is -10 (O&C but maybe I get a point or two for the mounting and capacitor?), and maybe lose 1/2 to 2/3 of the 25 points for distributor, cap, and advance, and a few points for the hole for the ballast resistor? So maybe 30-35 or so, that's not bad. Thanks.
        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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        • Jack C.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 30, 1992
          • 1090

          #5
          Re: How to max judging points on igniton on '67

          Or you bite the bullet for about $2,500.00 or more and see if Dave Fiedler has your correct setup.
          Jack Corso
          1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
          Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021

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          • Michael J.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 27, 2009
            • 7073

            #6
            Re: How to max judging points on igniton on '67

            Originally posted by Jack Corso (21713)
            Or you bite the bullet for about $2,500.00 or more and see if Dave Fiedler has your correct setup.
            Right! And then it may or may not work, and you have a few weeks/months of diagnosing problems for no gain except the 30+ points. No thanks. If it ain't broke don't fix it for thousands of $$ and a few points.
            Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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            • Gene M.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 1, 1985
              • 4232

              #7
              Re: How to max judging points on igniton on '67

              Mike,
              Might I suggest you install the TI box and harness so you do not get deductions for it missing. Even if it is not "plug in" at least you can get originality points and condition. See, you can not get condition points on pieces not there. The original style cap is available in repop at a small deduction but better than a 40 year old worn original functionally.

              If you think about it some I'm sure you can figure out a way to create the "art of illusion" that the TI harness is connected and functioning.

              Find a good spot to "hide" the ballast resistor. Get a fake can to slip over a coil to display the TI number.

              If others can create bogus engine pads for points then have a little fun creating your ignition for points .......

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              • Michael J.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 27, 2009
                • 7073

                #8
                Re: How to max judging points on igniton on '67

                Originally posted by Gene Manno (8571)
                Mike,
                Might I suggest you install the TI box and harness so you do not get deductions for it missing. Even if it is not "plug in" at least you can get originality points and condition. See, you can not get condition points on pieces not there. The original style cap is available in repop at a small deduction but better than a 40 year old worn original functionally.

                If you think about it some I'm sure you can figure out a way to create the "art of illusion" that the TI harness is connected and functioning.

                Find a good spot to "hide" the ballast resistor. Get a fake can to slip over a coil to display the TI number.

                If others can create bogus engine pads for points then have a little fun creating your ignition for points .......
                Hey, that's not a bad idea. Then my original TI distributor would count full points and I could get the TI coil sticker to put on the coil. Might work. It would at least confuse the judges.
                Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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