Delivery Data

[George J.]

I have some questions about this service, etc.

1. It states, below, that the Heritage Center is allowing certain information from the Reports to be available to member of the NCRS. This implies that there is more information on these sheets. Does anyone know what that information is?

2. Does anyone know what, if any, other information the Heritage Center has, but is not releasing regarding other documents relating to older Corvettes?

3. Can someone please tell us how this situation came to light? The whole story, please? If not, why not?

George

From the NCRS description:

With permission granted by the General Motors Heritage Center, the National Corvette Restorers Society is pleased to announce that it can now offer solely to its members, certain information contained in 1962-1972 (with some limited 1973-1974 data) Corvette Month Car Shipped Reports. The ordering information will be available at our new Documentation Services website at www.NCRS.org/services.html. The new website will be activated on October 1st to accept orders.
The first service is the CORVETTE SHIPPING DATA REPORT. The information consists of the dealer code, dealer name, dealer address and the date the car was produced. The good news is this should allow you to find the original dealer where your Corvette was sold and possibly open the door to finding more information about your Corvette. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record.
The second service is the CORVETTE DOCUMENT VALIDATION. NCRS will compare any of your GM documents to the GM records contained in the Shipping Report and if verification can be achieved, will establish the authenticity of your factory documents. Unfortunately, the shipping report does not contain the vehicle options. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record.
Information is available for 1962 to 1972 with some limited information to 1974. Only requests made by an NCRS member in good standing will be honored. The cost for either report is $40, to reimburse NCRS for time incurred to research the request against the GM records and provide appropriate response. Some records may not be obtainable due to damaged/missing files or physical condition of your documents. Further information may not be retrievable from a Chevrolet Dealer, e.g. failure to archive records or termination of the Dealership.

[Tom H.]

Re: Delivery Data

George, check out the ongoing discussion right here on this very subject.

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthread.php?t=80881&uid=7520

[George J.]

Re: Delivery Data

George, check out the ongoing discussion right here on this very subject.

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...80881&uid=7520

Tom,
thanks, but I specifically did not post the questions, there, since there is so much else going on in that thread. If we can get my questions answered I thought that it would be better served in a separate thread.

George

[Michael D.]

Re: Delivery Data

The information to be made available October 1 amounts to nothing more than car shipper info; original dealer name, dealer code, and the date the vehicle was produced. That limited information could be helpful to folks who have no other documentation, but for those of us who have original documentation above dealer name, code, and the date, it is not the pot at the end of the rainbow.

For thirty years, possibly longer, there has been speculation that somewhere in the tremendous mass of GM corporate archives there might exist Corvette order information for specific cars. This information (build sheets or equivalent) has never been located.

Reading between the lines of the other post, Mr. Michaelis feels this type of documentation possibly does exist and is offering to pay to learn the truth.

[George J.]

Re: Delivery Data

The information to be made available October 1 amounts to nothing more than car shipper info; original dealer name, dealer code, and the date the vehicle was produced. That limited information could be helpful to folks who have no other documentation, but for those of us who have original documentation above dealer name, code, and the date, it is not the pot at the end of the rainbow.

For thirty years, possibly longer, there has been speculation that somewhere in the tremendous mass of GM corporate archives there might exist Corvette order information for specific cars. This information (build sheets or equivalent) has never been located.

Reading between the lines of the other post, Mr. Michaelis feels this type of documentation possibly does exist and is offering to pay to learn the truth.

Michael,
my questions have nothing to do with what Terry M. has done, advertised for, etc. I don't expect to find that someone is holding the holy grail. I would just like someone who knows to answer the questions I asked. Not other questions, not what they think I am asking, just the questions above.

George

[Kenneth B.]

Re: Delivery Data

I have some questions about this service, etc.

1. It states, below, that the Heritage Center is allowing certain information from the Reports to be available to member of the NCRS. This implies that there is more information on these sheets. Does anyone know what that information is?

2. Does anyone know what, if any, other information the Heritage Center has, but is not releasing regarding other documents relating to older Corvettes?

3. Can someone please tell us how this situation came to light? The whole story, please? If not, why not?

George

From the NCRS description:

With permission granted by the General Motors Heritage Center, the National Corvette Restorers Society is pleased to announce that it can now offer solely to its members, certain information contained in 1962-1972 (with some limited 1973-1974 data) Corvette Month Car Shipped Reports. The ordering information will be available at our new Documentation Services website at www.NCRS.org/services.html. The new website will be activated on October 1st to accept orders.
The first service is the CORVETTE SHIPPING DATA REPORT. The information consists of the dealer code, dealer name, dealer address and the date the car was produced. The good news is this should allow you to find the original dealer where your Corvette was sold and possibly open the door to finding more information about your Corvette. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record.
The second service is the CORVETTE DOCUMENT VALIDATION. NCRS will compare any of your GM documents to the GM records contained in the Shipping Report and if verification can be achieved, will establish the authenticity of your factory documents. Unfortunately, the shipping report does not contain the vehicle options. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record.
Information is available for 1962 to 1972 with some limited information to 1974. Only requests made by an NCRS member in good standing will be honored. The cost for either report is $40, to reimburse NCRS for time incurred to research the request against the GM records and provide appropriate response. Some records may not be obtainable due to damaged/missing files or physical condition of your documents. Further information may not be retrievable from a Chevrolet Dealer, e.g. failure to archive records or termination of the Dealership.

SIR
Maybe the choice of words " certain information" has you confuesed. I beleave that they could have stated that the NATFB or shipping data has been made avaliable to them. It could be that too many of us watch CSI. As I have said I had two Corvettes checked years ago & what they say you get is what is on those reords. If you or anyone else would like me to tell you what I got please call 260 927 6891. I have no dog in this fight & have no inside knowledge of what NCRS has but I know what the NAFB gave out in the day. ROY please help us out! This has gotten worse than the BJ deal LOL
KEN

KEN BARRY

[George J.]

Re: Delivery Data

SIR
Maybe the choice of words " certain information" has you confuesed. I beleave that they could have stated that the NATFB or shipping data has been made avaliable to them. It could be that too many of us watch CSI. As I have said I had two Corvettes checked years ago & what they say you get is what is on those reords. If you or anyone else would like me to tell you what I got please call 260 927 6891. I have no dog in this fight & have no inside knowledge of what NCRS has but I know what the NAFB gave out in the day. ROY please help us out! This has gotten worse than the BJ deal LOL
KEN

KEN BARRY

Ken,
I am sure you are correct, and I appreciate your offer. It would just take someone less than five minutes to answer the above questions and everyone would have a lot more information. Not answering questions is an answer in itself, sometimes.

George

[Roy S.]

Re: Delivery Data

Geroge,

The glass is half full - not half empty. This is information NCRS did not have before, NCRS has it now and NCRS has it because of the dedication of the membership and this organization to the preservation and restoration of the Corvette.

I will attempt to answer your questions; this will be my last post regarding this subject.

1. It states, below, that the HeritageCenter is allowing certain information from the Reports to be available to member of the NCRS. This implies that there is more information on these sheets. Does anyone know what that information is?

The information does not contain options as stated in the announcement. The information available is what we have and better than what we had before, we are pleased to offer it to the membership.

2. Does anyone know what, if any, other information the HeritageCenter has, but is not releasing regarding other documents relating to older Corvettes?

No we do not, but consensus is and has been for a long time the “Holy Grail” does not exist.

3. Can someone please tell us how this situation came to light? The whole story, please? If not, why not?

Why not give the organization a chance to tell the story to the membership in the Driveline and Corvette Restorer our official publication that goes to all members not just those participating here on the discussion board.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: Delivery Data

Geroge,

The glass is half full - not half empty. This is information NCRS did not have before, NCRS has it now and NCRS has it because of the dedication of the membership and this organization to the preservation and restoration of the Corvette.

I will attempt to answer your questions; this will be my last post regarding this subject.

1. It states, below, that the HeritageCenter is allowing certain information from the Reports to be available to member of the NCRS. This implies that there is more information on these sheets. Does anyone know what that information is?

The information does not contain options as stated in the announcement. The information available is what we have and better than what we had before, we are pleased to offer it to the membership.

2. Does anyone know what, if any, other information the HeritageCenter has, but is not releasing regarding other documents relating to older Corvettes?

No we do not, but consensus is and has been for a long time the “Holy Grail” does not exist.

3. Can someone please tell us how this situation came to light? The whole story, please? If not, why not?

Why not give the organization a chance to tell the story to the membership in the Driveline and Corvette Restorer our official publication that goes to all members not just those participating here on the discussion board.

THANKS ROY
I sorry I got you in to this but some members were thinking or were wishing that there was more than NCRS was giving out. I think your responce should put this to rest. I am sur you still have to walk on eggs not to upset the people that gave you this. For those that are dissapointed about the limited info. Just think at least now you can verify a pop,tank sticker & POP that it has the same dealer info. COME ON PEOPLE be happy that we got this much.
KEN

[Terry M.]

Re: Delivery Data

THANKS ROY
I sorry I got you in to this but some members were thinking or were wishing that there was more than NCRS was giving out. I think your responce should put this to rest. I am sur you still have to walk on eggs not to upset the people that gave you this. For those that are dissapointed about the limited info. Just think at least now you can verify a pop,tank sticker & POP that it has the same dealer info. COME ON PEOPLE be happy that we got this much.
KEN

Hey Ken, want to buy a bridge?

Sorry I couldn't resist -- the devil made me do it.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: Delivery Data

Hey Ken, want to buy a bridge?

Sorry I couldn't resist -- the devil made me do it.

ALRIGHT MR McManmon
I am 66 but not senile enough yet to think all the members will understand what is going on but I still have Faith that most will wait till the whole store is explained. I am some what of a pessimist but since you are the history major I defer to you. History dose show us that people tend to believe what thy want not what is there.
The saying is For those that get it no explanation is needed. For those that don't none is possable. You did make me laugh though because you are always so serious.
KEN

[Patrick H.]

Re: Delivery Data

You did make me laugh though because you are always so serious.
KEN

As with many of us, he's different in person.
Usually it's more subtle humor, but it's there.

Patrick

[Kevin G.]

Re: Delivery Data

For those that are dissapointed about the limited info.
KEN

According to the Black Book, this "limited" information accounts for some 265,946 vehicles produced between 62-72. Sorta makes it seem like a lot more when you think in those terms

Now organize and convert it to electronic format...........

[Tom M.]

Re: Delivery Data

Geroge,

The glass is half full - not half empty. This is information NCRS did not have before, NCRS has it now and NCRS has it because of the dedication of the membership and this organization to the preservation and restoration of the Corvette.

I will attempt to answer your questions; this will be my last post regarding this subject.

1. It states, below, that the HeritageCenter is allowing certain information from the Reports to be available to member of the NCRS. This implies that there is more information on these sheets. Does anyone know what that information is?

The information does not contain options as stated in the announcement. The information available is what we have and better than what we had before, we are pleased to offer it to the membership.

2. Does anyone know what, if any, other information the HeritageCenter has, but is not releasing regarding other documents relating to older Corvettes?

No we do not, but consensus is and has been for a long time the “Holy Grail” does not exist.

3. Can someone please tell us how this situation came to light? The whole story, please? If not, why not?

Why not give the organization a chance to tell the story to the membership in the Driveline and Corvette Restorer our official publication that goes to all members not just those participating here on the discussion board.

Hey Guys, Give this a chance, We have some great corvette car guys
here in the NCRS, THIS WILL HELP YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Terry M.]

Re: Delivery Data

I have learned that subtle humor doesn't cut it on the Internet.

"The saying is For those that get it no explanation is needed. For those that don't none is possible." Amen Brother!!

Oh and for the record, even as an original owner I'll ante up for whatever it is that is being offered -- even though I know what I will get. The only thing I don't know is when the car was competed, but I can guess pretty close. It will be fun to see how close I am.