Ordering Dealer or Dealer the car was

[Philip C.]

delivered to? Does anyone know if the info from NCRS tells us the dealer the car was delivered to or the dealer who ordered the car. I know sometimes cars were ordered from one dealer and sent by chevrolet to another. Phil 8063

[Tom H.]

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I believe the reports we are seeing indicate the dealer whom the car was delivered.

[Philip C.]

Re: Ordering Dealer or Dealer the car was

I believe the reports we are seeing indicate the dealer whom the car was delivered.

Thanks Tom but your not sure either, maybe Roy or someone else that knows for sure could shed some light so we can know for sure, Iam asking because I see from some of the posts that alot of people are very shocked from where their car came from, I know I was! Thanks Phil 8063

[Tom H.]

Re: Ordering Dealer or Dealer the car was

Thanks Tom but your not sure either, maybe Roy or someone else that knows for sure could shed some light so we can know for sure, Iam asking because I see from some of the posts that alot of people are very shocked from where their car came from, I know I was! Thanks Phil 8063

I agree that are are a few shocked members, but they weren't SURE of the delivering dealer of their car. They knew what they had been told by past owners.

The people who had the certain history of their cars, either by factual documentation or being the original owners are not shocked by the info they received. The shipping info from the NCRS matches their facts.

That being said, I still believe the shipping data we are getting is for the dealer the unit was delivered to. Anybody out there back up my thoughts ?

[Roy S.]

Re: Ordering Dealer or Dealer the car was

This information is taken from the Shipping Data Report. This information is the GM record of who the vehicle was billed and shipped to. I have no reason to suspect it is anything other than that exact information.

Call it the billing data report if you wish, the dealer information being supplied is that which would have appeared on the window sticker, car shipper, etc.

One very interesting situation a tank sheet, dealer number scratched out, new dealer number hand written in. hand written information matches shipping data report and car shipper.

I am not sure that the capability of drop shipping to another dealer even existed in the 60’s and 70’s, maybe it did. I do know that dealer trades occurred but not with the frequency or capability they do today.

The 60’s were a robust time, my 67 sold new in MA, to a Purdue student still has Purdue newspaper and window decal, who graduated and went to the west Texas oil fields, where I found it, purchased it from the original owner and took it to Oklahoma, he gave me the original bill of sale from his purchase. The shipping data report shows it was shipped to the dealer in MA. By the time it was 9 years old it had only 27,000 miles but it had migrated from MA to IN to TX to OK.

[Jack H.]

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I agree that are are a few shocked members, but they weren't SURE of the delivering dealer of their car. They knew what they had been told by past owners.

The people who had the certain history of their cars, either by factual documentation or being the original owners are not shocked by the info they received. The shipping info from the NCRS matches their facts.

That being said, I still believe the shipping data we are getting is for the dealer the unit was delivered to. Anybody out there back up my thoughts ?

Well, the title of the service was "Shipping Data Report Service" so I never thought it was anything else than the dealer where the car was delivered. It was NOT called "Dealer Order Report Service".

[Chuck S.]

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...Anybody out there back up my thoughts ?

Doubtful in my opinion, Tom, but it would take someone that actually saw the inside of the ordering system at that time to say for sure.

When you have a large "machine" that receives orders, schedules production, delivers relatively expensive product, and processes payment, there is unlikely to be much variation in that process once it's set in motion. Orders at the corporate level would be received (perhaps even by telephone), scheduled, produced, shipped, and then billed. Each step of that process would be documented by a "system", with confirming typed documents along the way.

In my opinion, I think it unlikely that ANY changes, especially delivery to an alternate location, would be (routinely) entertained once production was actually scheduled...there is a lot of chance for screwups in revising orders with serious financial implications. I'm thinking that the originating dealer, or the one financially responsible for the order, would have to receive the car. After he took custody of the car, and incurred the financial liability, he could do what he wanted.

[Dick W.]

Re: Ordering Dealer or Dealer the car was

This information is taken from the Shipping Data Report. This information is the GM record of who the vehicle was billed and shipped to. I have no reason to suspect it is anything other than that exact information.

Call it the billing data report if you wish, the dealer information being supplied is that which would have appeared on the window sticker, car shipper, etc.

One very interesting situation a tank sheet, dealer number scratched out, new dealer number hand written in. hand written information matches shipping data report and car shipper.

I am not sure that the capability of drop shipping to another dealer even existed in the 60’s and 70’s, maybe it did. I do know that dealer trades occurred but not with the frequency or capability they do today.

The 60’s were a robust time, my 67 sold new in MA, to a Purdue student still has Purdue newspaper and window decal, who graduated and went to the west Texas oil fields, where I found it, purchased it from the original owner and took it to Oklahoma, he gave me the original bill of sale from his purchase. The shipping data report shows it was shipped to the dealer in MA. By the time it was 9 years old it had only 27,000 miles but it had migrated from MA to IN to TX to OK.

Roy, they were drop shipping for fleets during that era as I purchased many cars and pickups from a certain dealer and they were drop shipped to at least seven different dealers around the country

[Ronald L.]

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Yesterday I talked to a guy, now 85 years young at Reedman's, they had 2 guys (now long gone) who's job it was to buy up cars from other dealers.

He told me this: "We had 160 acres and sold thousands of cars a month, we never had a 'love affair' for any one of them", meaning they got them and sold them as fast as possible.

[Clem Z.]

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i remember other dealers senting people in the winter time to pick up cars at my dealer when sales were slow here in the snow belt.