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Re: Definitions get lost in time, Bill.
Yes it is true but the term "roadster" tends to be universally used interchangeable with convertable, even by manufacturers, to mean a soft top sports car. You are fighting an uphill battle since the term is still used even though there are no true roadsters being mass produced today. I pointed this distinction out some time ago and was soundly cyber-thrashed. You are charging windmills. -
Re: Definitions get lost in time, Bill.
Most people, including car magazine editors, don't know the difference between zero and oh, either.
Merry Christmas!
DukeComment
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Re: all corvettes
Well lets take this one step further----what body style is a t-top vehicle and what body style is a targa top vehicle?
ArtComment
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Re: all corvettes
OK, I'll bite. A T-top has two removable panels which, when removed, reveal a roof support member parallel to the longitudinal axis of the car. Example, Camaros, Firebirds and Olds coupes from the '70s and '80s. A targa top is a single removable panel a la the C5 coupe and, of course, the apparent originator of the targa top, at least to my knowledge, the venerable Porsche 911.
JackComment
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Re: all corvettes
According to the Feds, a t-top body styled vehicle is actually classified as a Coupe i.e. it has a structural member between the windshield header and the B pillar header.
Also according to the Feds, a targa top body styled vehicle is actually classified as a Convertible.
Just some useless data that I picked up while working for the General.
ArtComment
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Re: all corvettes
The Feds don't know the difference between a passenger car and a truck!
DukeComment
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Re: all corvettes
True!
ArtComment
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Re: all corvettes
can't stand SUVs either, eh?
bComment
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Re: Definitions get lost in time, Bill.
I heard Dale Pearman explain the difference in this terminology in a judging school several years ago. I have never owned a convertible and did not know the difference at the time. BTW, I hope he is still holding his own.Comment
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Re: all corvettes
Let's see. The heaviest car I have ever owned is the SWC at about 3100 pounds curb weight.It's also the least fuel efficient at mid to high teens in town and low twenties on the highway. The "biggest" in terms of seat height is my '88 190E 2.6, but it's 200 pounds lighter. I'm not a fan of Stupid Useless Vehicles, especially when they skate the gas guzzler tax because the Feds allow the OEMs to classify them as "trucks". I'm against the gas guzzler tax - let the market determine fuel prices and what people buy, but if the Congress thinks such a tax is appropriate, it should be applied to all privately owned conveyances that are designed primarily for transporation of people.
DukeComment
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Re: all corvettes
I own an SUV (leftist liberal term used to describe a vehicle purchase that suites ones tastes, or wants as opposed to ones needs) and not only is it heavy, but its a gas guzzeling V8 too. It came standard with a 6 cyl, but I opted for the V8. Its full time 4X4, and has power everything, even heated leather seats. Its got big 16" wheels, big fat bumbers front and rear, and it sits up pretty high. Not higher than my other vehicle, a full size 3/4 ton 4X4 pick up truck.
I bought the biggest truck that would fit in my heated garage, but I never haul anything with it, or tow a trailer. Its also got a big, gas guzzeling V8. I had it weighed at the local truck stop, and it came in at a whopping 5600lbs, empty. Its also got big fat bumbers, but these are chrome plated steel ones.
My other vehicle is a company supplied van, also an optional big cube, gas guzzeling V8. Its got big, fat steel bumpers too, but they're the cheap painted kind. We only use it to carry small, light parts that would probably fit into the trunk of the Toyota Echo, but it has over 90,000 miles in only 3 years.
Sometimes when there is nothing to watch on my big screen TV, I fill one of these gas guzzeling V8's up with premium fuel, and drive around for a few hours, going no place in particular. I just like to drive, it relaxes me. You should see how fast these vehicles are when you press the gas pedal all the way to the floor! You can almost see the gas guage move down toward empty. Thats OK, there are a lot of gas stations where I live, and I'll just fill it up again.
Maybe I'll go look at a new vehicle to add to my fleet. This way, I will have a capable vehicle to use in any situation that should arise, even though I doubt I'd ever need it.
I think I'll go for a drive right now............
GeorgeComment
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Re: all corvettes
i am with you george as these people you see on TV bitchen about SUVs are rich enought that most of them own their own or lease a airplane just to haul their fat a---s around and that sure waste more fuel than any SUV or truck. john kerry is aways saying we peons should save fuel by drive small killer cars so he has fuel for his wife's(the widow heinz from the 57 pickle fame)personal jet so he can fly around and campain for president. i say BS. during the 70 i even put in a gas pump and a underground fuel tank so my son and i could fill up my 454 PU truck so we could go dirt biking and snowmobiling.Comment
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Re: all corvettes
The Feds wrote the definitions during the rulemaking process for the CAFE regulations - in their attempt to keep it simple, they decided that if the vehicle has a flat floor (or the seating arrangement can be owner-reconfigured without tools as a flat floor), it's a truckComment
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Re: all corvettes
Our ability to pick and choose as consumers and select whatever vehicle we like for personal transportation smacks of individual expression and freedom of choice (which is very difficult to regulate or legislate), and it's that freedom that drives the left-wing bleeding-heart liberals wild. The longer they've lived in apartments on the Washington Beltway and ridden public transporation and the longer they've played parasite on the Federal payroll or on those of the liberal "think-tanks" that occupy every other building in D.C., the louder they howl. They've never tried to haul 4x8 sheets of plywood or drywall 20 or 30 miles in a cab What I choose to drive and where I choose to live is none of their business, but they want to make EVERYTHING we do their business; they just can't stand the idea that other people can do things that aren't "regulated" in their liberal image. Watch who you vote forComment
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