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  • Gary 38683

    #1

    1967 manual?

    Are points added if a original manual is in the car when Top Flighting.
    What's a fair price for one?
  • Jack H.
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    • April 1, 1990
    • 9893

    #2
    Re: 1967 manual?

    Points are not 'added' for having a correct/original owner's manual.... We start each line item with the judging score sheet telling us the points available (originality and condition), the observe the part/parts in question and make deductions based on how much deviation is seen between what's there and a known original sample of the item....

    On originality, absent any specific judging advice published, we use these five axis (Finish, Date, Installation, Configuration and Completeness) on an equal basis to assess originality deduction(s). Consider the owner's manual.

    It's an Interior part associated with the Glove Box. There are 5 originality points and 5 condition points for the 'contents' of the glove box. This would include the owner's manual, trim ring instruction, spare key set, warranty booklet, plastic envelope, and other things depending on configuration of the car like wrench for convertible hardtop). So, you can see the owner's manual is QUICKLY 'deluted' in terms of scoring point content given 4500 total points for the car!!!!!

    A reproduction owner's manual might have an extra type line to the effect "Reprinted with the permission of GM" where originals did not have this disclaimer. That would be a violation of the 'Configuration axis' and take appropriate deduction(s).

    BUT, on items like this it's easy to get into a 'teeter totter' situation. You've got the orignal item, but it's worn/tattered and therefore subject to a loss of condition points but will get full originality points. Versus, the reproduction part has obvious differences from the factory original piece (loses originality point score), but is pristine fresh/new for a full score on condition!

    The area of companion literature can get pricey. Factory original owner's manuals and warranty books in pristine condition have sold for prices in the $200-300 range. This is NOT an economically rational $/judging point expenditure. But, there are some who take their restoration/preservation efforts VERY seriously and will/do pay outrageous prices for a correct original vs. reproduction this/that....

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    • Dave S.
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      • September 1, 1992
      • 2881

      #3
      Re: 1967 manual?

      1967 had both a first edition and second edition. The second edition is dated April 1967 so any car delivered in approximately April or later would have a second edition manual. 67 is one of those years(the other is 65) that has a significant price difference between first and second edition manuals, with first editions being the toughest of the two. In 65 it was the other way around where the second editions are much tougher. Second edition 65 manuals are dated December 1964. I hope you have an early 67 car.

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      • Dave S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • September 1, 1992
        • 2881

        #4
        Re: 1967 manual?/Addendum

        Sorry, I meant to say I hope you have a late 67 car. I wasn't trying to wish additional expense on you, it was a typo.

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