Does a numbers matching ex fuelie have a different value than its carbureted counterpart?
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Re: C2 Ex Fuelie value
Hey Tom Not valVe but valUe ($). Im considering buying a matching #s car that was originally fuel injected(now carbureted). The FI is no longer available. Im trying to determine whether an ex fuelie is any more or less valuable than its carbureted counterpart.Comment
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, are you thinking I know how to read, or what? DUH!Comment
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For those who are FI lovers (AND I AM), yes it is more valuable. If, as you have been told, it is TRULY a matching number car (except for the missing FI unit), the unit can be replaced with another 780 unit. Yes, it will be kind of expensive, BUT, if it were me, and I wanted it bad enough, I would probably get it. YOU CAN NEVER OBTAIN the original engine if it is gone, but you CAN install another 780 FI unit and get someone such as John DeGregory to make you a repo tag for the FI unit. No, it will never be the unit which was ORIGINALLY on the car, but it would be the next best thing. MANY people search far and wide to replace missing things such as a correct number carb, distributor, radio, gauge, whatever, so I really don't see that much difference in regards to an FI unit. It just wouldn't have it's original tag.
From my PERSONAL viewpoint, predicated on the car having it's original, factory installed engine, yes, it's worth more. You'll just have to bare the expense of rounding up the missing parts. Good luck.Comment
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I think everything Tom said is absolutely correct. The question remains though, "worth more?". If you're comparing a fuelie, with all the stuff gone (unit, distributor, air cleaner, etc) to an original and complete 340 horse car with all original components in place, I'm not sure that it is worth more. I don't think there's much doubt that if the car is otherwise complete/original and the condition otherwise warrants the expenditure, that it's worth buying the stuff to go back on. I'd be interested in opinions what a done, 63 fuel unit/distributor/air cleaner would cost. I'd wouldn't be surprised at prices approaching 10K complete and ready.Comment
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I tried to make it clear that it would be kind of expensive. For a person who WANTS and is FAMILIAR with FI cars, it is VERY probable that they will know UP FRONT about the potential expense of this kind of restoration. Or they need to know in the beginning. BUT, as an FI lover, AND WITH THE RIGHT CAR WITH THE RIGHT PARTS TO START WITH, the expense would be worth it to me--------------BUT MAYBE NOT TO OTHERS!!!!! That can only be a PERSONAL decision! If you ALREADY HAVE the car, with its ORIGINAL FI block/heads, then $10K to return it to a correct FI unit will be CONSIDERABLY cheaper than BUYING a correct FI car--------------------------TRUST ME!Comment
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I am not as familiar with C2 fuelies as I am C1's, But here are a couple of points to add. #1. Go and try to buy an original FI car somewhere for the price of the high horse carb car + FI unit (about $6-7K). Hard to do. #2. While it is possible to retrofit a FI unit to almost any C1/C2, it is hard to make a carb car into a factory FI car. There are too many tell tales on the body itself to make it easy to clone an FI car with just a unit and an engine stamp.
For some reason, which I won't speculate as to the cause, the price of midyear fuelies seems to lag behind C1 fuelies. I frequently see C2 FI cars priced under $40K. I almost never see a complete running C1 FI car for much less than $45-50K, and many are in the $60K+ range. Not sure I understand the reasoning, unless there have just been a lot more C2 cars survive.Comment
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Tom, I think you did make it clear, and my intention wasn't to counter your points. As a matter of fact I agreed with em. Since the question was purely value, I'm just not sure of the comparison from purely an economic standpoint. I'll always buy a car that needs something to put it back to some original, unique configuration over a car that's done, but maybe not quite so unique......just a flaw in my common sense I recon. I'm partial to the fuelies myself and have 2, although I was trying to think back, and I'm not sure I've ever ridden in a fuelie. My 63 roadster has 4066. original miles and has been disassembled since 64 or 65 depending on how many beers the original owner had before lunch on the day he's telling the history. The story also bounces back and forth between disassembly to prevent his mother from selling the car and disassembly to weld the frame solid to stiffen it for road racing. Thankfully neither one ever happened. My 62 is so scattered I don't know if I can get it back together with 2 assembly manuals, a chassis manual, Noland's book and 10 cases of scotch, but every piece of the original drivetrain is there and it's original paint (gettin' washed off now) & ain't never been busted, so I'm sho' gonna try.Comment
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I fully realized that you weren't countering my points, I was only adding some more opinionated info. After 65, FI was no longer available, thus a large number of owners are very unfamiliar with FI. And of course, FI was never offered on a BB (SUCH A SHAME!), therefore, compared to the total number of Corvettes built up through 82 models, FI is a small percentage of the total. As a result, most Vette owners are probably more familiar with carbs or the later electronic FI. So, most likely, only us diehard FI lovers are the only ones who will be more inclined to place a higher value on FI cars.Comment
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Hey Tom Thanks for your responses. Turned out to be a lot more complicated than I though it would be. But then, thats always the way. LesComment
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