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  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    A/C retrofits

    Jack, I agree that there are numerous HVAC contractors listed in the phone book, but from what I have observed, there are few of them that I want working on my Corvette. I do not know of any commercial application of HC-12 or any of the other "odd-ball" replacements for R-12. You cannot reclaim/recycle just any refrigerant in just any machine. Cross contamination of freons renders them useless and also nesessitates the replacement of the filtration in the equipment.

    Why use "off the wall" refrigerant that causes problems for technicians when R-12 is still available and R-134a is the accepted replacement.

    I do not know of a competent A/C technician that does not replace the receiver/drier when either the system has been open for a period of time or a catastropic failure has occured in the system. It has two functions; 1. It contains a deisacant which traps moisture and 2. It filters out contaminants and large particles which would otherwise clog valves. For replacement compressor waranty to be valid, the drier must be replaced.

    Yes it is possible to recycle driers but on everyday cars is it worth the effort.

    For further information on changeovers go to http://www.macsw.org/questions.html


    Dick Whittington
  • Roger Coen

    #2
    Re: A/C retrofits

    I just switched my 67 to R134. I also replaced the drier (it has a desicant especialy for R134). I have done alot of research but I am still nervous. Its working fine for now. I left everything else (clamps,compressor,hoses,etc.) as it was.

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    • Roger Coen

      #3
      Re: A/C retrofits

      I just switched my 67 to R134. I also replaced the drier (it has a desicant especialy for R134). I have done alot of research but I am still nervous. Its working fine for now. I left everything else (clamps,compressor,hoses,etc.) as it was.

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      • Craig Nicol

        #4
        Re: A/C retrofits

        Here's another reason to go to R134a. Excepting R134a and R12, all others that replacements that I have ever heard of are blends of three refrigerants. To work properly, all three have to be in proper proportion (33/55/12) or whatever. One of the three is the "lightest" and as normal leakage occurs, it will be the one to go. At recharge time it is impossible to just add the lost fraction. If you put in fresh blend, you will not reobtain the correct proportions of refrigerant. The only way to get it right is to sweep the system and replace the whole enchilada. OR... Use R134a in the first place, it is a "pure" refrigerant and small lost quantites are easily and correctly "topped off".

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        • Craig Nicol

          #5
          Re: A/C retrofits

          Here's another reason to go to R134a. Excepting R134a and R12, all others that replacements that I have ever heard of are blends of three refrigerants. To work properly, all three have to be in proper proportion (33/55/12) or whatever. One of the three is the "lightest" and as normal leakage occurs, it will be the one to go. At recharge time it is impossible to just add the lost fraction. If you put in fresh blend, you will not reobtain the correct proportions of refrigerant. The only way to get it right is to sweep the system and replace the whole enchilada. OR... Use R134a in the first place, it is a "pure" refrigerant and small lost quantites are easily and correctly "topped off".

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          • Dick W.
            Former NCRS Director Region IV
            • June 30, 1985
            • 10483

            #6
            Re: A/C retrofits

            I would not expect that you will experience any difficulties from the conversion if you had a properly functioning system in the beginning. Conversion will not correct any deficiencies that were there prior to the conversion.
            Dick Whittington

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #7
              Re: A/C retrofits

              I would not expect that you will experience any difficulties from the conversion if you had a properly functioning system in the beginning. Conversion will not correct any deficiencies that were there prior to the conversion.
              Dick Whittington

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