Well folks I have given up on ebay,I have called and searched every place I could think of I am looking for a 42 amp alternator for my car,All I need is a core to send to a rebuilder.So I plan on traveling 2 hrs or so to a junk yard (maybee on this saturday)that is loaded with old chevy cars.So does anybody know what other cars beside a corvette this alternator is installed in,Have I been missled did it actually come in other cars? Thanks as always LARRY SAVINO
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Re: C2 what other vechicle was a 1100696 alt used
Larry - it was used whenever the TI ignition was used...and I believe it was in more than Corvettes. Also, from what I have gleened, if you run across one that the 96 is stamped deeper than the other characters, these were apparently built in Canada and were not used on Corvettes, so I would shy away from them. These things are costing an obnoxious amount in the past 6-12 months, I have been looking for one from John Pirkle for almost a year. I ended up paying high dollars for a core on Ebay for a 5M22 unit for my March L72. There is one on Ebay right now that is restored, a 6B22, which was perfect for my car, I bid it to $455 last listing cycle, and the reserve was not met. The seller wants $750 reserve, I see it's back and listed again yesterday, but the restoration to me doesn't look like it has dated diodes and the case finish is hard to tell, so it may need restoration again by John Pirkle. There is a guy named Ken Bruno who advertises in Hemmings, and he sells on Ebay too...but he didn't have a dat to match my car. I have heard you see about 200 693's in a junkyard for every 696 that is around. I am sure if you went through the stock at a rebuild facility you could find some, and I bet there are some floating around in AutoZone and Pep Boys etc, for $35 rebuilt....they don't give a rip about the numbers on the case....best of luck!....Craig -
Re: C2 what other vechicle was a 1100696 alt used
Larry-----
The GM #1100696 alternator was used across the entire Chevrolet passenger car and light truck line during 1965 through 1968. Except for Corvettes which used it mostly for K-66 (TI) applications, it was available for most other Chevrolet cars and trucks as option K-79. This was an option which replaced the base 37 amp alternator with an upgraded 42 amp alternator (i.e. the 1100696). Of course, this option was not available with any combination of options which used a higher amp alternator.
As it turns out, there were no applications for which the 42 amp alternator was the base unit. However, it was used for 1965 and 1966 Chevy IIs with A/C as the standard alternator unless a higher output alternator was optionally specified under K-76 or K-81.
For 1965, 1966 and 1967 I don't think too many folks felt the need to option-up from a 37 amp alternator to a 42 amp. There were a plethora of other options available in those days and I'm sure this one didn't attract a lot of attention. It was inexpensive, though, only costing about $10.50 for 1966.
Nevertheless, there were never a great many of these installed, although, as I described, they were NOT unique to Corvettes. Considering this fact and the natural attrition factor that 40 years causes in the "general alternator population", when one starts looking for a rather rare alternator part number and superimposes on that the requirement for certain "dates", one creates a significant challenge for oneself.
No offense intended to anyone, but this fascination with "numbers" and "dates" has always intrigued me. One can EASILY obtain an alternator case and parts which are IDENTICAL in configuration to the 1100696. As I've said before, "numbers" and "dates" are a part of configuration, but they are an infinitesimally SMALL part of configuration. So, one can easily reproduce 99.5% of the overall configuration. I sometimes think that this fascination with "numbers" and "dates" is rooted in fascination with treasure hunts. I can understand that, too, since such nonsense fascinates me also.
Trivia Question: Who was the host of the old TV Game Show "Treasure Hunt"?In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Re: C2 what other vechicle was a 1100696 alt used
AS QUOTED FROM ABOVE
As I've said before, "numbers" and "dates" are a part of configuration, but they are an infinitesimally SMALL part of configuration. So, one can easily reproduce 99.5% of the overall configuration. I sometimes think that this fascination with "numbers" and "dates" is rooted in fascination with treasure hunts. I can understand that, too, since such nonsense fascinates me also.
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Joe its very interesting about the numbers,I used to think how crazy it was to search for the numbered parts.So how have I become obssesed with them,I cant exsplain it except I enjoy researching the information,I kinda enjoy the treasure hunt,I definatley enjoy returning the car to its original configuration.I also think its a lot of peer pressure.I cant tell you how many time I am told your so close to having it perfect Just get the right alternator,just get the correct master cylender,swap your starter to some one with an earlyer date,ECT,ECT, The only thing I dont enjoy is paying for the correct date coded parts.I also feel it brings value to the car.And respect for the owner/builder to know somebody has done there home work to find all these parts.So me personally I cant exsplain what happened to send me down this road but I can say it has been a fun and enjoyable one except for the prices.
Thanks Again
As always Larry SavinoComment
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Maybe we can work together
There are many of us out there that have a 696 alternator that is correct in every way except that the date is too early or late. Maybe we should set up a method for us to swap with each other to better match our cars build date. I have a 696 that is dated 4M29. I need one that is closer to a June of 65 build date. With electronic photos and a little trust and help from each other maybe we can solve some of these problems.Comment
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Re: C2 what other vechicle was a 1100696 alt used
Man, did you take me back with that question! I think that it was Jan Murray.Comment
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Want a challenge ? try finding a 1100697
60 amp; available only on 1965 Corvettes with air conditioning and Transistorized Ignition (350 hp and 365 hp), and maybe a few others in the Chevrolet lineup.
Can't recall ever seeing one.Comment
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1100697? Already on it, and after 6
years, I just talked to a guy who says he has two(2) but doesn't know what the dates are.....I'm to call him back. According to Delco's inventory card, they built 599 FOR PRODUCTION in the years 1964 through 1968, and another 1749 for SERVICE 1964-1978.Comment
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Again Thank You to all,I have found a rebuilder today who has the correct unit in stock for my car.I am finally not looking any more for one for my car,I did get some information from the builder on what is a good and bad core and may still continue on with my plan to go junking for some alternators. Talk about treasure hunting I just did an ebay search of completed auctions some of the cores have sold for more then what a properly rebuilt unit goes for.
As always thanks
Larry
Ps I now have the notes from above and the note from the rebuilder and when ever I go to a swap meet I will have my notes with me to be looking for 696 treasuresComment
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Re: HOORAY!
if you are buying a 696 from a dealer, you need to know that about 10 years ago a fellow in the south was restamping "oriental" alt. main bodies and selling them as orig 696's. As i recall there was a way to differentiate the real gm alt main body from that which was a generic from abroad. i seem to recall that Terry McManmon, the NCRS editor, had a handle on how to distinguish the location of the casting flaws on the real and the generic. you might call terry or hope he sees this post.Comment
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Re: HOORAY!
Thank you for that information the rebuilder is semi local to me(with in driving distance) and he exspained if I am not totally happy with the purchase I can return the product for a full refund no questions asked.I do hope that terry does check in on this threadComment
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Re: C2 what other vechicle was a 1100696 alt used
Gary------
Correct----Jan Murray it was.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Treasure Hunt Host
The host of Treasure Hunt was ---- John Bartholemew Tucker.
Don't even ask how I know that, because I don't have a clue.
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