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Would a 67 radio delete coupe have a radio speaker installed under the grill in the dash? Would radio capicitors still be attached to the guage cluster? Thanks as always.
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Re: 67 Radio Delete
Rick----
You're trying to test my patience on use of the term "radio delete", aren't you? Just kidding, but as I've mentioned before, on Corvettes prior to 1979, radios were an option. If you didn't order and pay for one, you didn't get one. They weren't deleted from the cars.
Anyway, enough for semantics; I'm really a practical kind of guy. As far as I know, neither speakers nor static-suppression capacitors were provided with cars that did not have the radio option. Also, as far as I know, radio interference ignition shielding(distributor, spark plugs, etc) was not provided with cars not equipped with radios. All of these parts were part of the U69 radio option UPC installation. That's the primary reason that radios cost so much on 60's and 70's Corvettes. $172.75 might not sound like a lot today, but in the late 60's this was a LOT of money for an option, especially a radio. When, as a struggling college student I factory-ordered my '69, I had to think long and hard as to whether I could afford the $172.75 and whether I really needed a radio that much. I'm glad now, though, that I did go for it.
As a side note, I did decide when I ordered my car that, although at the time I liked the T-Top better, I would order the convertible with hard top only. That way I'd have sort of a coupe and I'd save the then-massive amount of $343. Getting both tops for the convertible would have reduced my savings by $253, so I decided that I really didn't like soft-tops anyway. Almost 30 years later, though, I'm glad that I didn't spend the extra $343 for the T-Top because I love the convertible now. In 1986, I even added the soft-top. Problem was, by that time the whole kit and kaboodle cost me over $2,500. So, my $253 1969 savings didn't turn out to be so wise after all. You win some and you lose some.
Anyway, my sincere apologies from this extensive excursion from the original question.In Appreciation of John Hinckley -
Re: 67 Radio Delete
Rick----
You're trying to test my patience on use of the term "radio delete", aren't you? Just kidding, but as I've mentioned before, on Corvettes prior to 1979, radios were an option. If you didn't order and pay for one, you didn't get one. They weren't deleted from the cars.
Anyway, enough for semantics; I'm really a practical kind of guy. As far as I know, neither speakers nor static-suppression capacitors were provided with cars that did not have the radio option. Also, as far as I know, radio interference ignition shielding(distributor, spark plugs, etc) was not provided with cars not equipped with radios. All of these parts were part of the U69 radio option UPC installation. That's the primary reason that radios cost so much on 60's and 70's Corvettes. $172.75 might not sound like a lot today, but in the late 60's this was a LOT of money for an option, especially a radio. When, as a struggling college student I factory-ordered my '69, I had to think long and hard as to whether I could afford the $172.75 and whether I really needed a radio that much. I'm glad now, though, that I did go for it.
As a side note, I did decide when I ordered my car that, although at the time I liked the T-Top better, I would order the convertible with hard top only. That way I'd have sort of a coupe and I'd save the then-massive amount of $343. Getting both tops for the convertible would have reduced my savings by $253, so I decided that I really didn't like soft-tops anyway. Almost 30 years later, though, I'm glad that I didn't spend the extra $343 for the T-Top because I love the convertible now. In 1986, I even added the soft-top. Problem was, by that time the whole kit and kaboodle cost me over $2,500. So, my $253 1969 savings didn't turn out to be so wise after all. You win some and you lose some.
Anyway, my sincere apologies from this extensive excursion from the original question.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Re: 67 Radio Delete
Rick, A 67 with out a radio is a non-radio option car. The radio was not standand equiptment. But no,the caps and plug wire shielding would not be present. However some original non-radio cars do have the throttle linkage ground strap. The strap at the front body mount near the firewall generally is present on non-radio cars. I guess this was more for electrical grounding than shielding. Caps on flasher, blower motor, coil are absent. Generaly the voltage regulator cap is also absent. The GM assembly manual calls for design intent in the radio section. Not always was this what came off the assembly line.Comment
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Re: 67 Radio Delete
Rick, A 67 with out a radio is a non-radio option car. The radio was not standand equiptment. But no,the caps and plug wire shielding would not be present. However some original non-radio cars do have the throttle linkage ground strap. The strap at the front body mount near the firewall generally is present on non-radio cars. I guess this was more for electrical grounding than shielding. Caps on flasher, blower motor, coil are absent. Generaly the voltage regulator cap is also absent. The GM assembly manual calls for design intent in the radio section. Not always was this what came off the assembly line.Comment
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Re: 67 "No Radio" cars
Gene, I remember at a Bloomington workshop years ago, it was mentioned that occasionally St.Louis would drill the antenna hole in the rear body panel by mistake, as only 3 in 100 cars were "radio delete" in 1967. They would then "factory fill" to correct.Comment
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Re: 67 "No Radio" cars
Gene, I remember at a Bloomington workshop years ago, it was mentioned that occasionally St.Louis would drill the antenna hole in the rear body panel by mistake, as only 3 in 100 cars were "radio delete" in 1967. They would then "factory fill" to correct.Comment
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Re: 67 "No Radio" cars
Wayne, I believe you are correct I have not run across any non radio mid year myself that did not have a pluged hole. I know of an early 63 that has two pluged holes. Maybe a previous owner added a radio at some point.Comment
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Re: 67 "No Radio" cars
Wayne, I believe you are correct I have not run across any non radio mid year myself that did not have a pluged hole. I know of an early 63 that has two pluged holes. Maybe a previous owner added a radio at some point.Comment
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Re: 67 Radio Delete
Thanks for the information.I used the term only as it has become commonplace,even though technically incorrect.What do I do about ground straps? Put some on and leave some off? Thanks.Comment
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Re: 67 Radio Delete
Thanks for the information.I used the term only as it has become commonplace,even though technically incorrect.What do I do about ground straps? Put some on and leave some off? Thanks.Comment
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Radio grounds & caps
Rick, I am not sure if you are looking for a response for a radio optioned car or not. If a radio is present caps should be on the coil, flasher, stop lite switch, voltage regulator, & blower motor. Ground straps are found on exhaust pipe clamps at tranny mount, and throttle linkage. Also a brass ground strap connects the antenna ground plate to the frame at the left rear wheel next to the body mount. The engine ground strap and strap at front left body mount is present radio or not.Comment
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Radio grounds & caps
Rick, I am not sure if you are looking for a response for a radio optioned car or not. If a radio is present caps should be on the coil, flasher, stop lite switch, voltage regulator, & blower motor. Ground straps are found on exhaust pipe clamps at tranny mount, and throttle linkage. Also a brass ground strap connects the antenna ground plate to the frame at the left rear wheel next to the body mount. The engine ground strap and strap at front left body mount is present radio or not.Comment
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