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  • kenneth bingener NCRS#38563

    C-1 cowl vent

    Early 58: Was the entire cowl vent painted body color? ie was the screen/mesh and its support pillars painted the same as the body? Thanks, Ken
  • John M.
    Expired
    • January 1, 1999
    • 1553

    #2
    Re: C-1 cowl vent

    The entire vent including the screen was painted body color. The S link connecting the vent to the actuator was gloss black, but the surface that shows to the open vent should show overspray from when the body was painted with the vent open! The judges are looking for this.

    Regards, John McGraw

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    • Dennis C.
      NCRS Past Judging Chairman
      • January 1, 1984
      • 2409

      #3
      Re: C-1 cowl vent

      Ken - John describes it well. Basically, the cowl vent was installed during body paint. But the rubber sealing gasket was not (cemented) in place yet. It isn't much fun to install later, but if it was easy, it wouldn't be as much fun. Dennis

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      • Skip Kimball

        #4
        Re: C-1 cowl vent

        LOL Looking forward to that! How much over spray?

        Skip

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        • Dennis C.
          NCRS Past Judging Chairman
          • January 1, 1984
          • 2409

          #5
          Re: C-1 cowl vent

          If you make a reasonable attempt to paint the car like the General did, you don't have to worry about most tiny details. It will pretty much turn out as if it was painted @ the factory. One example would be the doors. If you paint with with doors in place, it will probably look factory. If you paint the doors off the car, it probably won't. No problem, simply choose your goal... Dennis

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          • Skip Kimball

            #6
            Re: C-1 cowl vent

            WOW What a goal to meet! "A Factory painter that wanted to go home to see his family" .... ""Who cares what this looks like I wanna go home""

            My 2002 DENALI looks like that.

            Is it bad that I would like my 62 to look better?

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            • Dennis C.
              NCRS Past Judging Chairman
              • January 1, 1984
              • 2409

              #7
              Re: C-1 cowl vent

              I apologize, I have no idea what a DENALI is.

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              • John A. Salce(# 21388)

                #8
                Re: C-1 cowl vent

                Just when everybody thought this issue was dead, here I come with a question!!! I am looking at Noland Adams's Restoration and Technical Guide (1st edition/3rd printing) and on the top of page 210 it clearly shows two pictures of cars on the assenbly line WITHOUT the cowl vents installed. The right-hand picture even shows the wiper posts in the car BEFORE the cowl vent is in place. Figuring this to be 100% accurate (I can't see how it can be disputed) the cowl vent MUST have been hanging around by this area for painting at the same time. It MUST have been either masked off in some fashion, partially disaasembledfor paint and assembled later, OR completely painted the body color. This being the case, does anyone have any thoughts on this? I am looking to find the proper way so I can make sure mine (1959) is "correct". Any thoughts? John

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                • John M.
                  Expired
                  • January 1, 1999
                  • 1553

                  #9
                  Re: C-1 cowl vent

                  John,
                  The problem with Flight judging is that sometimes it does not make any difference what really happened but what the JG guide assumes happened!
                  I know the photo you are refering to and I agree that the vent was probably not painted on the car. I have never thought that it would be possible to get the kind of coverage necessary with the vent on the car. That being said, The judges are looking for overspary on the S link. I paint mine with almost full coverage, assuming that the vent was painted off the car while laid out on a flat surface (like the floor pan), others paint the link with only a little overspray (as if it was sparyed through the screen). I think that either way would pass judging scrutiny, but I just prefer to paint the upper surface of the link almost complete for several inches back from the vent. I have run into the same type conflict over the gas tank cover. The conventional wisdom holds that the cover was painted before the screws were installed, but my car appeared to be painted with the cover in place. Does it make an sense that they would install the fill pipe and vent line and mask around them if the tank cover was not installed yet? Bottom Line is you do whatever is expected by the judges if you wish to get maximum points, and sometimes you just have to ignore what you truly belive is correct!

                  Regards, John McGraw

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                  • John M.
                    Expired
                    • January 1, 1999
                    • 1553

                    #10
                    P.S.

                    Also If you doubt that the vent was painted off the car, try installing the cowl vent gasket with the vent in place!

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                    • Mike M.
                      NCRS Past President
                      • May 31, 1974
                      • 8365

                      #11
                      Re: C-1 cowl vent

                      i believe the cowl vent was laying on the pass side floorboard because there was an outline of the cowl vent in body color on both my 54 vin 2184 and one of our 57's vin 4450. Don't ever recall deductions for cowl vent overspray as long as its the correct color. mike

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                      • John M.
                        Expired
                        • January 1, 1999
                        • 1553

                        #12
                        Re: C-1 cowl vent

                        The only deducts that I am aware of is for total lack of overspray on the link.

                        Regards, John McGraw

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