C1 Muncie for Borg Warner swap

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  • Rick Krason

    #1

    C1 Muncie for Borg Warner swap

    Does anyone know the lengths of the B/W 3-spd that came in a 1960, versus a Muncie M-21/M-22? Are the lengths the same that one could replace the other with no changes in driveshaft length? Shifter location the same? I am almost positive the bellhousing is the same pattern...right?
    Rick StickyLK@aol.com
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  • Ed Jennings

    #2
    Re: C1 Muncie for Borg Warner swap

    Should be a bolt in swap, but you will need to use a yoke for a PG and a 62 trans mount. Check the archives, there was a recent discussion on this topic.

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 42936

      #3
      Re: C1 Muncie for Borg Warner swap

      Rick and Ed-----

      Yes, the 63-70 Muncie, the 57-63 T-10, and 57-70 Saginaw 3 speeds are the same length. The bellhousing bolt patterns are the same for all. 1971-74 Muncies and 74+ T-10s are 3/4" longer, so if you use one of those, then you need to shorten the driveshaft by a commensurate amount. Any Muncie with a GM casting #3978764 extension housing is a 71+ Muncie and falls into the category of the 3/4" longer variety.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Richard P.
        Infrequent User
        • August 1, 1995
        • 22

        #4
        Re: C1 Muncie for Borg Warner swap

        Rick,
        As stated earlier you only need a mounting plate available from the usual sources (about 3/8" thick) to make up for about a 2" difference front to rear in the tranny mounting point. You'll also need a long 26 or 27 spline (I forget which) yoke, also available from the usual sources. I made up my own shifter mount for a Hurst competion plus from a piece of 1/4" plate. I believe the complete kit for the shifter, and a repro stick is available as well. Not a big job, you'll love the difference.
        Regards,
        Rick

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