on my 63 with non matching numbers, the starter turns over fine when cold but cranks very slowly if i run it for just a short time,so after reading a few answers i decided to purchase a new one, numbers on the starter read 1107273 5E17, was just wondering what that starter may be from so i can replace it,are their many different starters to select for the 327? thanks
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Scott-----
Starter GM #1107273 was originally used on 63-66 standard transmission-equipped Chevrolet trucks with 153 cid L-4, 230 cid L-6, and 283 cid V-8.
Keep in mind that the part number stamped on the starter frame (the barrel-like center section) is the part number for the starter as ORIGINALLY configured. When items like starters get into the core stocks of commercial rebuilders, they are stripped down to the basic parts, cleaned, and the internal components re-assembled into staters which may or may not be anything like the original configuration. In other words, after going through a mass-production, commercial rebuilder, the numbers on the starter frame really mean nothing, at all. They are just the vestige of the unit that frame originally was part of.
There are really only a few different basic configurations of starter frames used for all GM starters in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. So, these frames can be used to make up just about any passenger car or light truck starter.
For rebuilt starters, the only thing that matters is the number on the box that the starter is supplied in and, sometimes, also found on a label placed on the starter, itself, by the rebuilder. This identifies the application that starter in the box is designed to SERVICE. At this point, the embossed number on the starter frame means absolutely nothing, at all. This INCLUDES remanufactured starters sold under GM part numbers. In the case of remanufactured GM/Delco starters, the applicable part number is that found on the BOX or on the LABEL affixed to the starter. The number embossed on the starter frame means nothing.
So, what's all this hoopla about "numbers matching" starters? Well, with a "numbers matching" starter what you get is a starter that has the same number stamped on the frame as was originally used for a particular year and engine application. How does this often pricey, "numbers matching" starter differ from one that you could purchase at an auto supply store for $50, or so? The difference is STRICTLY related to the "numbers"; the internal workings are otherwise the same.In Appreciation of John Hinckley -
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Thanks again joe for your help,you answered all my questionsComment
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Scott, Since we are in the "numbers don't match & we don't care" mode allow me to suggest the following. Stay out of the auto parts store. Go to the phone book and find a local rebuilder of starters. This guy makes a living rebuilding commercial grade starters.
Take him your starter and tell him you want it rebuilt to at least the specs of the HD units used on the L-82's from the mid 70's. or Ask him if he has a rebuilt unit on the shelf which will meet those specs. The dollar signs will still be under a $100 and the starter will be built correctly the FIRST time. If the auto parts store sells you a "bad" rebuild ( and it is fairly common that this happens) they will replace it for FREE ! But just how many times do you want to replace it for FREE ?!
Let's do her 100% right the first time.Comment
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Scott -
I installed a TCI Mini-Starter and am amazed how well it works. It weighs half as much as a stock starter, cranks faster and is not susceptible to heat.Comment
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