I have a 65 with original FI and TI,the engine cranks but wont start, no fire. I just finished a frameoff chassis restoration and I wanted to start the engine and check for leaks, problems etc.before the bodydrop.I have connected new Lectric Limited ignition and TI harness and performed the necessary mods per Lectric Limited instructions. I ran a continuity checks prior to and after installing the harness and, everything was ok. To start the engine, I made up jumpers to jump from the harness connection (the one that would normally connect at the firewall)to an ignition switch that came out of the car. I jumped the following from the harness to the ignition switch. 1. 12R the hot battery lead to the batt terminal on the switch. 2. 14ppl solenoid lead to the sol terminal on the switch. 3. The white resistance lead direct to the ign on the switch. 4. A ground lead from a good chassis ground to the ground terminal on the switch. I checked for continuity through the TI amplifier, distributor magnetic pickup assembly and the coil, again everthing seemed to be ok. I even changed ignition switches with a new one out of the box. Is there another lead I should have on the switch or somewhere else? The engine was running fine before I removed the body. I am sorry to make this thread so long, but I wanted to give you a history of what I had done. Any advice is deeply appreciated. Thanks in advance Floyd
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Re: 65 Transistor Ignition - No Fire to the Plugs
The TI Amplifier must be grounded also. -
Re: 65 Transistor Ignition - No Fire to the Plugs
The TI Amplifier must be grounded also.Comment
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Re: 65 Transistor Ignition - No Fire to the Plugs
Thanks Roy for the response, the amplifier does have a good chassis ground. That ground lead comes off of the harness in the area where the 3 prong connector is attached to the amplifier, it would normally be grounded to the radiator support. Thanks again FloydComment
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Re: 65 Transistor Ignition - No Fire to the Plugs
Thanks Roy for the response, the amplifier does have a good chassis ground. That ground lead comes off of the harness in the area where the 3 prong connector is attached to the amplifier, it would normally be grounded to the radiator support. Thanks again FloydComment
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Be gentle with me.
I'm not sure I followed you completely, so let me summarize what I think you've done.
You've got the new ignition and starter wiring harnesses on the car and nothing else was changed in the ignition system. This distributor, amplifier, and coil worked fine with the old wiring. You are certain that you are getting no fire (and you didn't blow the diodes by pulling a plug wire to test for spark). You've got the FI unit micro-switch hooked up to the purple solenoid wire. You grounded the black wire at the amp box as well as the box itself. You've got the white resistance wire on the + side of the coil and the black one on the negative. Your distributor plug-in connects the green/white wire with the grey wire, and the white wire with the pink wire. The other pink wire coming from the TI harness is connected to solenoid juice.
Would you mind confirming this before I make any suggestions about what to try next?Comment
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Be gentle with me.
I'm not sure I followed you completely, so let me summarize what I think you've done.
You've got the new ignition and starter wiring harnesses on the car and nothing else was changed in the ignition system. This distributor, amplifier, and coil worked fine with the old wiring. You are certain that you are getting no fire (and you didn't blow the diodes by pulling a plug wire to test for spark). You've got the FI unit micro-switch hooked up to the purple solenoid wire. You grounded the black wire at the amp box as well as the box itself. You've got the white resistance wire on the + side of the coil and the black one on the negative. Your distributor plug-in connects the green/white wire with the grey wire, and the white wire with the pink wire. The other pink wire coming from the TI harness is connected to solenoid juice.
Would you mind confirming this before I make any suggestions about what to try next?Comment
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Re: Be gentle with me.
Jerry Every thing you said is correct with 2 exceptions. 1. The white resistance wire goes to the - side of the coil and the black wire goes to the + side of the coil. 2. I did not ground the amplifier itself, which I was not aware that it had to be grounded as such and is probably my problem. Roy Signoir, Al Grenning, and yourself all have said the same thing, which leads me to belive that this is my problem. I will try check it tomarrow and let you'll know the results. Thank you for your assistance. BTW JERRY don't you have a 65 Fuelie? I think I saw an article you wrote about Fuel Injection in Driveline. If it was you it was an excellect article and I used some of your suggestions, ie. The Mighty Vac. Thanks Again FloydComment
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Re: Be gentle with me.
Jerry Every thing you said is correct with 2 exceptions. 1. The white resistance wire goes to the - side of the coil and the black wire goes to the + side of the coil. 2. I did not ground the amplifier itself, which I was not aware that it had to be grounded as such and is probably my problem. Roy Signoir, Al Grenning, and yourself all have said the same thing, which leads me to belive that this is my problem. I will try check it tomarrow and let you'll know the results. Thank you for your assistance. BTW JERRY don't you have a 65 Fuelie? I think I saw an article you wrote about Fuel Injection in Driveline. If it was you it was an excellect article and I used some of your suggestions, ie. The Mighty Vac. Thanks Again FloydComment
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You're absolutely right.
I was looking at the TI wiring on my '69 when I prepared my first response. I didn't know that GM had flopped the colors on the distributor connections from the '64-8 harness until you pointed it out. How odd.
I'm glad you enjoyed my articles. Actually there is one other guy named Jerry Bramlett on earth. He lives in Houston, and we even worked for the same company during the seventies and eighties. Thank goodness he's not into old cars at all.Comment
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You're absolutely right.
I was looking at the TI wiring on my '69 when I prepared my first response. I didn't know that GM had flopped the colors on the distributor connections from the '64-8 harness until you pointed it out. How odd.
I'm glad you enjoyed my articles. Actually there is one other guy named Jerry Bramlett on earth. He lives in Houston, and we even worked for the same company during the seventies and eighties. Thank goodness he's not into old cars at all.Comment
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