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  • TERRY SPRATT

    #1

    paint for 62 vette

    please help, i was told that if i use clear coat base coat on my corvette i will devalue it. i was told to use lacque paint (the one used in 62). please help, as i do not want to hurt my car, as it is all orgin. including the paint, which has checkers.
  • Richard E.
    Expired
    • November 1, 1976
    • 200

    #2
    Re: paint for 62 vette

    Hi Terry - It's true that an originality "correct" paint job would be done in laquer as in 1962. The level of "de-value" you refer to is a function of what you intend to achieve with the car. A clear coat finish will not hurt the non-NCRS "street" value. However, it will hurt your NCRS judging results if it shows an "OBVIOUS" Clear Coat. I believe there are a few non-laquer painters that can tone down clear coat to make it less obvoius. Hopefully, some team leaders will also respond as this is a concern to a lot of us from the early years. Good Luck!

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    • Richard E.
      Expired
      • November 1, 1976
      • 200

      #3
      Re: paint for 62 vette

      Hi Terry - It's true that an originality "correct" paint job would be done in laquer as in 1962. The level of "de-value" you refer to is a function of what you intend to achieve with the car. A clear coat finish will not hurt the non-NCRS "street" value. However, it will hurt your NCRS judging results if it shows an "OBVIOUS" Clear Coat. I believe there are a few non-laquer painters that can tone down clear coat to make it less obvoius. Hopefully, some team leaders will also respond as this is a concern to a lot of us from the early years. Good Luck!

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      • James F.
        Very Frequent User
        • December 1, 1985
        • 596

        #4
        Re: paint for 62 vette

        Terry, Dick gave you some good thoughts. You'll need to decide if your Corvette is to be driver or a hopeful 97 point NCRS Top Flight candidate. Paint choice is a very personal decision, one I will stay away from when it's someone elses Corvette. You might first want to read John Pfanstiehl's soft cover book "Automotive Paint Handbook": by HP Books. My '56 is stripped and awaiting single stage Urethane paint. This decision was right for me. My Corvette will retain its original color scheme and look as lacquer although this paint is much more durable. Single stage Urethane can be sanded and buffed to the lacquer look. This works only if you desire a non metallic color. Metallic colors in Urethane require a clear coat. Regards,

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        • James F.
          Very Frequent User
          • December 1, 1985
          • 596

          #5
          Re: paint for 62 vette

          Terry, Dick gave you some good thoughts. You'll need to decide if your Corvette is to be driver or a hopeful 97 point NCRS Top Flight candidate. Paint choice is a very personal decision, one I will stay away from when it's someone elses Corvette. You might first want to read John Pfanstiehl's soft cover book "Automotive Paint Handbook": by HP Books. My '56 is stripped and awaiting single stage Urethane paint. This decision was right for me. My Corvette will retain its original color scheme and look as lacquer although this paint is much more durable. Single stage Urethane can be sanded and buffed to the lacquer look. This works only if you desire a non metallic color. Metallic colors in Urethane require a clear coat. Regards,

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          • Ron

            #6
            Re: paint for 62 vette

            Jim, Does John Pfanstiehl's soft cover book "Automotive Paint Handbook": by HP Books discuss how to apply the single stage Urethane paint to look as lacquer? This is very important for me because I want to go for a Top flight in the near future. Also, do we still need to apply a Gel coat before Urethane? Thanks for the help. Ron 61 project.

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            • Ron

              #7
              Re: paint for 62 vette

              Jim, Does John Pfanstiehl's soft cover book "Automotive Paint Handbook": by HP Books discuss how to apply the single stage Urethane paint to look as lacquer? This is very important for me because I want to go for a Top flight in the near future. Also, do we still need to apply a Gel coat before Urethane? Thanks for the help. Ron 61 project.

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              • Gene M.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1985
                • 4232

                #8
                Re: paint for 62 vette

                If you can get hold of A DuPont rep in your area they will do a tech seminar on many of the question that you ask. We had a real informative seminar in our Western New York Chapter.

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                • Gene M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 1985
                  • 4232

                  #9
                  Re: paint for 62 vette

                  If you can get hold of A DuPont rep in your area they will do a tech seminar on many of the question that you ask. We had a real informative seminar in our Western New York Chapter.

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                  • Jack H.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1990
                    • 9893

                    #10
                    Eye Of The Beholder

                    You mix metaphors when you talk about factory concours paint and the value of the car. The value of the car is subjective based on current market at the time of sale and buyer/seller objectives. As such, there is no 'correct' answer to whether painting one way vs. another enhances or detracts from the asset value of your vehicle.

                    On the other hand, in NCRS (and other Corvette factory concours circles) there are standards that apply to authenticity points. These are very much independent of value.

                    Example: If your car has the factory original paint AND you campaign it as an NCRS Bowtie or NCCB/Bloomington Survivor, the condition of the paint (spider webbing) has little/no effect on scoring. At NCRS the Bowtie criteria is 75% surface coverage, or more, for the paint to qualify. So, in this recognition category, you would do NOTHING to your car's paint and anything you did do in terms of repainting would DETRACT from the car's scoring potential.

                    What I'm saying is knowing the end game objectives of your classic Corvette ownership has much to do with value, approach, and alternatives....

                    In other Corvette circles, an NCRS 'correct' paint/finish detracts from the car's value. In some places, the presense of orange peel (yep, they came from the factory with a reasonably sloppy finish) reduces the car's desirability. So, there's no 'correct' answer as to what to do to maximize the real market value of your car. There are only alternative paths where some are governed by rules.

                    The key operative at NCRS is the word 'obvious' in conjunction with clear coating. If an NCRS judge cannot reasonably detect the presense of clear coat on a correct lacquer paint finish, there is no originality deduction. Just some food for thought....

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                    • Jack H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 1990
                      • 9893

                      #11
                      Eye Of The Beholder

                      You mix metaphors when you talk about factory concours paint and the value of the car. The value of the car is subjective based on current market at the time of sale and buyer/seller objectives. As such, there is no 'correct' answer to whether painting one way vs. another enhances or detracts from the asset value of your vehicle.

                      On the other hand, in NCRS (and other Corvette factory concours circles) there are standards that apply to authenticity points. These are very much independent of value.

                      Example: If your car has the factory original paint AND you campaign it as an NCRS Bowtie or NCCB/Bloomington Survivor, the condition of the paint (spider webbing) has little/no effect on scoring. At NCRS the Bowtie criteria is 75% surface coverage, or more, for the paint to qualify. So, in this recognition category, you would do NOTHING to your car's paint and anything you did do in terms of repainting would DETRACT from the car's scoring potential.

                      What I'm saying is knowing the end game objectives of your classic Corvette ownership has much to do with value, approach, and alternatives....

                      In other Corvette circles, an NCRS 'correct' paint/finish detracts from the car's value. In some places, the presense of orange peel (yep, they came from the factory with a reasonably sloppy finish) reduces the car's desirability. So, there's no 'correct' answer as to what to do to maximize the real market value of your car. There are only alternative paths where some are governed by rules.

                      The key operative at NCRS is the word 'obvious' in conjunction with clear coating. If an NCRS judge cannot reasonably detect the presense of clear coat on a correct lacquer paint finish, there is no originality deduction. Just some food for thought....

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                      • Mark Lovejoy

                        #12
                        Re: paint for 62 vette

                        To my knowledge straight axle corvettes did not have the gel-coat process, it came a little later, mid-sixties I think. Lots of primer and lots of sanding!

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                        • Mark Lovejoy

                          #13
                          Re: paint for 62 vette

                          To my knowledge straight axle corvettes did not have the gel-coat process, it came a little later, mid-sixties I think. Lots of primer and lots of sanding!

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                          • Christopher R.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 1, 1975
                            • 1593

                            #14
                            Re: paint for 62 vette/single stage urethane

                            Jim,

                            How did you formulate the single stage urethane paint color to match the correct color for your car? How confident are you that the urethane job will look like a lacquer job, and that the colors will be the same?

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                            • Christopher R.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • April 1, 1975
                              • 1593

                              #15
                              Re: paint for 62 vette/single stage urethane

                              Jim,

                              How did you formulate the single stage urethane paint color to match the correct color for your car? How confident are you that the urethane job will look like a lacquer job, and that the colors will be the same?

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