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  • John M.
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    • January 1, 1999
    • 1553

    1960 radiator shroud bolts

    The last couple of times judging, my 60 has taken a hit for the shroud bolts not being the right finish. I am pretty sure that they are the originals and are most decidedly black phospahte or black oxide. I would guess that the judges are looking for cad/zinc plated bolts, Is this correct? I do not know that I have ever seen a set of shiney bolts attaching the shroud to the radiator, but who knows, My mind may just be failing me! Could they have been only talking about the small bolts that hold the shroud together at the bottom?
    I would be interested in all comments.

    Regards, John McGraw
  • Joe Maulsby

    #2
    Re: 1960 radiator shroud bolts

    John, I looked at my '60 last night. The six bolts (3 on either side) that hold shroud to radiator support had been painted some time in the past, but the paint had flaked off one of them and it was cadmium plated. The smaller hex head bolts that hold the shroud to the frame are unpainted on my car. The AIM states the bolts that attach the shroud to the radiator support bracket are "unpainted."

    Did I read the AIM correctly that the shroud is painted semi-flat black? Same as engine blackout color?

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    • John M.
      Expired
      • January 1, 1999
      • 1553

      #3
      Re: 1960 radiator shroud bolts

      Joe,
      That was the question that I had. The JG says that the bolts are unpainted, it does not say what finish the bolts are! I just don't remember seeing these bolts in a cad finish on bowtie cars, but I could be wrong. I went back to my disassembly notes on the car and found that I had noted the bolts appeared to be black oxide finish and also appeared to be originals based on head markings.
      I would agree that the bolts should not be painted in any case since the radiator and shroud were not in place when blackout was done. The fan shroud would have been painted semi-gloss black. Bottom line is that I will plate the bolts if that will avoid point loss, but I am just trying to find out what the judges are really looking for! Even the vendors cannot agree on the correct finish with one selling black bolts while another sells plated bolts.

      Regards, John McGraw

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      • Joe Maulsby

        #4
        Re: 1960 radiator shroud bolts

        John, I would be glad to remove one of my bolts and use paint stripper on it to see what lies beneath. I am getting ready to pull the engine and the radiator in a month anyway. Paint stripper wouldn't remove the black oxide finish would it? Let me know what bolt head markings you have and I will check mine to see if they are the same. We might be able to figure something out this way. It is worth a try.

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        • Mike E.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • February 28, 1975
          • 5134

          #5
          Re: 1960 radiator shroud bolts

          My experience is black oxide/phophate, usually with an "e" mark, with an indented what I would call "flanged" head (I don't recall the technically correct term)--in other words, the head flows down to create its own washer. (Some just call it a "washer-head" bolt) I've never seen, on a documented original 57-62, cad-plated bolts in that location.

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          • John M.
            Expired
            • January 1, 1999
            • 1553

            #6
            Re: 1960 radiator shroud bolts

            Thanks Mike,
            That is the bolts that I have on my 60. I just can,t imagine that the JG is looking for cad plated bolts. I was guessing that the JG just meant to say that the bolts wer not painted with the shroud, not that they were cad plated. I have sent 58-60 team leader an Email asking for clarification.

            Regards, John McGraw

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            • Joe Maulsby

              #7
              Re: 1960 radiator shroud bolts

              John, I removed all six of the radiator shroud bolts last night and stripped the paint; 5 of the 6 were black oxide colored; 1 was cad plated, but it did not fit in with the rest as far as head marking and bolt head shape. I would say the shroud bolts were black oxide colored, not cad plated.

              Do your original shroud bolts have the "E" head marking? Three of my 6 have an "L" head marking with a small "5" sitting on top of the bottom part of the "L". The remaining 3 are all different head markings or no marking at all. I suppose mine could be original (except the cad plated one), just a different vendor?

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              • John M.
                Expired
                • January 1, 1999
                • 1553

                #8
                Re: 1960 radiator shroud bolts

                Joe,
                All of my bolts are the E head mark. I would guess that several vendors supplied the same bolt at the time.

                Regards, John McGraw

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