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When spraying black out paint to the body of a 61, what all needs to be blacked out? i know the wheel wells and engine compartment do. Can I just "blackout out" the entire under body? Should the black out painting occur before the top surface of the body is painted? Thanks. Ron 61 project
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Re: 61 black out painting
Black out was done AFTER the body was painted. Purpose was twofold: protect some components and give pleasing 'finished' look to enhance marketing cosmetics. A correctly restored car will not be blacked out in places where the factory did not do so. Consult the Judging Guide for your car and plan on attending a judging meet or two to understand how/where/why.
Factory concours deductions are taken for the presense of a finish where it should NOT be as well as incorrect finish. Shooting the entire undercarriage of your car with black out will most likely result in an across the board 20% originality deduction in Chassis components.
Some items were natural, some were cad plated, some were painted, Etc. When you shoot everything in sight, you prevent the judges from determining surface condition, obscure some items, and put a 'foreign' coating in places where it wasn't on original factory delivered cars.
There's an artform here (blackout) that's not so easy to bottle and deliver in a single e/posting. Spending a day or two as an observer judge will go a long way to helping you understand more fully and you should have fun in the sun at the same time! -
Re: 61 black out painting
Black out was done AFTER the body was painted. Purpose was twofold: protect some components and give pleasing 'finished' look to enhance marketing cosmetics. A correctly restored car will not be blacked out in places where the factory did not do so. Consult the Judging Guide for your car and plan on attending a judging meet or two to understand how/where/why.
Factory concours deductions are taken for the presense of a finish where it should NOT be as well as incorrect finish. Shooting the entire undercarriage of your car with black out will most likely result in an across the board 20% originality deduction in Chassis components.
Some items were natural, some were cad plated, some were painted, Etc. When you shoot everything in sight, you prevent the judges from determining surface condition, obscure some items, and put a 'foreign' coating in places where it wasn't on original factory delivered cars.
There's an artform here (blackout) that's not so easy to bottle and deliver in a single e/posting. Spending a day or two as an observer judge will go a long way to helping you understand more fully and you should have fun in the sun at the same time!Comment
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Re: 61 black out painting
Please keep in mind that most of the underfloor fiberglass is bare from the factory and is judged to remain that way.Comment
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Re: 61 black out painting
Please keep in mind that most of the underfloor fiberglass is bare from the factory and is judged to remain that way.Comment
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Re: 61 black out painting
Ron:
First, you need to get yourself back to the factory process. The body was on a dolly going through the paint booth for blackout. A mask was used for the underside of the hood to create the edge - it was NOT perfect. The men shooting the wheel wells did NOT achieve uniform coverage on all cars. Some overspray HAD to result in certain areas - the sides of the spare tire well, as an example, were blacked out but only as a result of the spraygun shooting the rear wheel wells. Page 329 of Noland's book gives a good photo of a 1962 underneath and is a factory photo; the only thing unclear is the time element between production and photo taking - but to clear that up, compare the photo to that on page 223 of Noland's book - a picture taken on January 15, 1960, approximately 1 week after #2269 is produced. I don't think that you'll find much difference between the 1960 and 1962 photos except for one - NEITHER ONE WAS PERFECT.Comment
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Re: 61 black out painting
Ron:
First, you need to get yourself back to the factory process. The body was on a dolly going through the paint booth for blackout. A mask was used for the underside of the hood to create the edge - it was NOT perfect. The men shooting the wheel wells did NOT achieve uniform coverage on all cars. Some overspray HAD to result in certain areas - the sides of the spare tire well, as an example, were blacked out but only as a result of the spraygun shooting the rear wheel wells. Page 329 of Noland's book gives a good photo of a 1962 underneath and is a factory photo; the only thing unclear is the time element between production and photo taking - but to clear that up, compare the photo to that on page 223 of Noland's book - a picture taken on January 15, 1960, approximately 1 week after #2269 is produced. I don't think that you'll find much difference between the 1960 and 1962 photos except for one - NEITHER ONE WAS PERFECT.Comment
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Re: 61 black out painting
Thanks for all the assistance! Again, you guys are irreplaceable. RonComment
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Re: 61 black out painting
Thanks for all the assistance! Again, you guys are irreplaceable. RonComment
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