Jack Humphrey has risen? How 'bout Elvis?

[GDaina]

Jack, very interesting post you wrote regarding the UK emissions, and paint techniques.

Not to beat a dead horse in the ground, but you and all the judges are going to be faced with a dilemma in about 3-5 years, maybe sooner. What to do when no mo lacquer is available. Sure, the guy can use the correct color in clearcoat, but all his hard work, getting the correct parts, numbers, etc. will be very disappointing if he gets docked for painting his car with the only paint available, clearcoat. I'll wager you that you will be faced with a mutiny, if guys have 100 point cars and get docked because of clearcoat.

It's not to soon to start addressing this.

BTW, what do the Brits use for applying the paints?

[Jack H.]

Last time in Memphis; Elvis was still dead!

Some of your response confuses me. I was simply pointing out that NCRS members abroad 'may' have an advantage over their Stateside cousins in (1) cost of paint/body workmanship, and (2) availability of original (or closer to original) paint materials. How'd I miss making my case?

NCRS has addressed the subject of Federal/local emissions law and lacquer paints on several occassions. Each time, the National Judging Chairman has tabled discussion on major rule changes since lacquer paint is STILL available (notwithstanding the relative availability/cost) and Corvettes restored/preserved to factory original standards ought to enjoy a recognition differential on the judging field. Whether we individually agree/disagree with current position, it IS clear and understandable....

Also, things change -- the club's rules are not static. We improve our judging guides as enhanced knowledge arrives and we improve our concours scoring system. This is why score sheets have been removed from each JG as it comes up for reprint. In the case of paint, we used to lump paint into a single category and it was 'all or nothing' on originality/condition.

Recent JG and new score sheets divide exterior paint into two categories: (1) color, and (2) material. My '71 Top Flight driver is a case in point. I intentionally shot it with water based enamel for the durability but kept the paint color correct/matching Mille Miglia Red. Yes, I take a full deduction on the judging field for non-lacquer paint, but I get full credit (not inconsequential -- 80 points) for the core color.

I don't 'bitch' and it doesn't give me heartburn knowing I left points on the table.... I simply drive a few more miles to the meet to compensate and enjoy my car as a consequence.

Now, my '65 is a trailer queen I restored in honor of my uncle who owned the cars I got. I went 'whole hog' and took it to the top (Mark Of Excellence, Gold Certification, Gold Spinner/Triple Crown). Even if I had to pack the car in a container and ship it abroad to repeat the job today for factory authenticity, I'd do it....

While this sounds laughable, there are two members of our chapter looking at this alternative for their restorations. Guess what? Initial cost roll ups indicate they can SAVE money by going this way!

Bottom line, the gloom and doom sayers that predict 'insurrection' in the club over this/that issue, do the organization little good. I choose to roll up my sleeves, get involved, get active and HELP my fellow club members. That's how you change/improve a political animal -- you do it from the inside, not the outside.

Come on, crack a smile and have fun! Summer's here and it's time to have fun in the sun with our cars. It's the cars that bring us together, but in the end it's the PEOPLE who count!

[Jack H.]

Last time in Memphis; Elvis was still dead!

Some of your response confuses me. I was simply pointing out that NCRS members abroad 'may' have an advantage over their Stateside cousins in (1) cost of paint/body workmanship, and (2) availability of original (or closer to original) paint materials. How'd I miss making my case?

NCRS has addressed the subject of Federal/local emissions law and lacquer paints on several occassions. Each time, the National Judging Chairman has tabled discussion on major rule changes since lacquer paint is STILL available (notwithstanding the relative availability/cost) and Corvettes restored/preserved to factory original standards ought to enjoy a recognition differential on the judging field. Whether we individually agree/disagree with current position, it IS clear and understandable....

Also, things change -- the club's rules are not static. We improve our judging guides as enhanced knowledge arrives and we improve our concours scoring system. This is why score sheets have been removed from each JG as it comes up for reprint. In the case of paint, we used to lump paint into a single category and it was 'all or nothing' on originality/condition.

Recent JG and new score sheets divide exterior paint into two categories: (1) color, and (2) material. My '71 Top Flight driver is a case in point. I intentionally shot it with water based enamel for the durability but kept the paint color correct/matching Mille Miglia Red. Yes, I take a full deduction on the judging field for non-lacquer paint, but I get full credit (not inconsequential -- 80 points) for the core color.

I don't 'bitch' and it doesn't give me heartburn knowing I left points on the table.... I simply drive a few more miles to the meet to compensate and enjoy my car as a consequence.

Now, my '65 is a trailer queen I restored in honor of my uncle who owned the cars I got. I went 'whole hog' and took it to the top (Mark Of Excellence, Gold Certification, Gold Spinner/Triple Crown). Even if I had to pack the car in a container and ship it abroad to repeat the job today for factory authenticity, I'd do it....

While this sounds laughable, there are two members of our chapter looking at this alternative for their restorations. Guess what? Initial cost roll ups indicate they can SAVE money by going this way!

Bottom line, the gloom and doom sayers that predict 'insurrection' in the club over this/that issue, do the organization little good. I choose to roll up my sleeves, get involved, get active and HELP my fellow club members. That's how you change/improve a political animal -- you do it from the inside, not the outside.

Come on, crack a smile and have fun! Summer's here and it's time to have fun in the sun with our cars. It's the cars that bring us together, but in the end it's the PEOPLE who count!

[GDaina]

Jack, I saw Elvis yesterday..

Hey, I don't mean to come accross as gloom and doom, just looking down the road. I had a choice whether to buy Acrylic British Green or Clear Coat, I chose Acrylic, only because it was $100.00/gal less than clear coat. Had the price been equivelant, clear coat would have been my choice, but, I think I can play with the paint and add "depth" to match clear coat's luster.

Each day my smile gets bigger & better, as my Rip Van Winkle is nearing wake up time.

[GDaina]

Jack, I saw Elvis yesterday..

Hey, I don't mean to come accross as gloom and doom, just looking down the road. I had a choice whether to buy Acrylic British Green or Clear Coat, I chose Acrylic, only because it was $100.00/gal less than clear coat. Had the price been equivelant, clear coat would have been my choice, but, I think I can play with the paint and add "depth" to match clear coat's luster.

Each day my smile gets bigger & better, as my Rip Van Winkle is nearing wake up time.

[Jack H.]

On TV commercial here too

No hard feelings. Didn't get the drift that seemed to lecture NCRS judging officials. I've got my own feelings and I'll be the last to say lacquer is a 'do or die' issue. Fact is NCRS doesn't tell a guy what to do with a car, heck it's his asset!

Only thing we can do is maintain standards and try and be fair and objective in a good natured manner. My skin must be too thin. When I perceive the 'owner/judge' syndrome, I growl. Bottom line is there ain't no 'them' (doers of all things) it's really 100% us....

[Jack H.]

On TV commercial here too

No hard feelings. Didn't get the drift that seemed to lecture NCRS judging officials. I've got my own feelings and I'll be the last to say lacquer is a 'do or die' issue. Fact is NCRS doesn't tell a guy what to do with a car, heck it's his asset!

Only thing we can do is maintain standards and try and be fair and objective in a good natured manner. My skin must be too thin. When I perceive the 'owner/judge' syndrome, I growl. Bottom line is there ain't no 'them' (doers of all things) it's really 100% us....

[GDaina]

In da movies.....

Jack, your earlier post you mentioned getting involved, Well, I is ready, willin', an' rearin' to go. When do we start? All kidding aside, I'd like to get involved, but not sure NCRS would take too kindly to my....how shall I put it, manner, demeaner, you see, I'm not the kind that goes with the flow, a team player yes, but when something is out of kilter, I have a tendency to speak my mind.

[GDaina]

In da movies.....

Jack, your earlier post you mentioned getting involved, Well, I is ready, willin', an' rearin' to go. When do we start? All kidding aside, I'd like to get involved, but not sure NCRS would take too kindly to my....how shall I put it, manner, demeaner, you see, I'm not the kind that goes with the flow, a team player yes, but when something is out of kilter, I have a tendency to speak my mind.

[Jack H.]

On the radio

I think you disparage yourself too much. Most who are active in the club have just as much ego, energy, and verve for a given issue/position. Hey, that's politics and life, man!

Point is getting listening skills, realizing that everyone has something to contribute, and we didn't get to where we're at because guys who volunteered were off-the-wall. To the contrary, the more time I spend kicking around and meeting my fellow NCRS members, the more I understand there's a lot of wisdom (sometimes acquired at 'gunpoint') that went into the rules we have.....

To 'get active', join NCRS at the national level (phone call with charge card to the membership office in Cincy, top web page). Ask 'em who to contact to join your local chapter (in some locales, you'll have a choice -- you can join one, two, no limit). Show up at the next chapter meeting. Meet the guys. Get a feel for the organization and its power structure. Raise your hand an VOLUNTEER to help (asst Judging Chair, committee this/that member). The rest will happen naturally, like a duck to water!

[Jack H.]

On the radio

I think you disparage yourself too much. Most who are active in the club have just as much ego, energy, and verve for a given issue/position. Hey, that's politics and life, man!

Point is getting listening skills, realizing that everyone has something to contribute, and we didn't get to where we're at because guys who volunteered were off-the-wall. To the contrary, the more time I spend kicking around and meeting my fellow NCRS members, the more I understand there's a lot of wisdom (sometimes acquired at 'gunpoint') that went into the rules we have.....

To 'get active', join NCRS at the national level (phone call with charge card to the membership office in Cincy, top web page). Ask 'em who to contact to join your local chapter (in some locales, you'll have a choice -- you can join one, two, no limit). Show up at the next chapter meeting. Meet the guys. Get a feel for the organization and its power structure. Raise your hand an VOLUNTEER to help (asst Judging Chair, committee this/that member). The rest will happen naturally, like a duck to water!