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Hello everyone, What is the correct finish (67 BB)for my idler arm, sway bars, steering linkage ond steering box? The Steering box was rebuilt by Bair's to NCRS Specs per my request. It came back with a Dull silver finish, which does not seem correct to me. This is my first foray into resto, can someone out there who definitely knows tell me what the right finishes and products to use. Many, thanks in advance... Tony 800.837.0305
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Re: correct finish idler arms and steering linkage
The infamous "correct steering box finish"...
Hi Mr. DiGeorgio!
This seems to be an area of controversy. NCRS manual calls for a "natural finish" box with phosphate (black) upper cover bolts (suspect lockwashers also phosphate). However, a very well-repsected (read: impeccable credentials, Bloomington judge) restorer I have spoken with paints the entire steering box a glossy black...
I'm afraid I cannot comment on the linkage as I am not certain, but there are many others here much more well-versed than I.
Carl
P.S. Does it look like a "car" again yet? -
Re: correct finish idler arms and steering linkage
The infamous "correct steering box finish"...
Hi Mr. DiGeorgio!
This seems to be an area of controversy. NCRS manual calls for a "natural finish" box with phosphate (black) upper cover bolts (suspect lockwashers also phosphate). However, a very well-repsected (read: impeccable credentials, Bloomington judge) restorer I have spoken with paints the entire steering box a glossy black...
I'm afraid I cannot comment on the linkage as I am not certain, but there are many others here much more well-versed than I.
Carl
P.S. Does it look like a "car" again yet?Comment
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Re: correct finish idler arms and steering linkage
Speaking of well respected Bloomington Gold Judges. Does anyone realize that for Bloomington Gold judge to be exposed to as many judging situations as a NCRS Master judge he would have to judge for twenty years. This is not intended as a slam to the Bloomington judge. I judged at bloomington for ten years before moving on. Most people seem to hold the Bloomington Judge on a pedastel I am just trying to relate a comparison for chances at gaining knowledge.Comment
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Re: correct finish idler arms and steering linkage
Speaking of well respected Bloomington Gold Judges. Does anyone realize that for Bloomington Gold judge to be exposed to as many judging situations as a NCRS Master judge he would have to judge for twenty years. This is not intended as a slam to the Bloomington judge. I judged at bloomington for ten years before moving on. Most people seem to hold the Bloomington Judge on a pedastel I am just trying to relate a comparison for chances at gaining knowledge.Comment
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Re: correct finish idler arms and steering linkage
Tony-----
The steering boxes were either "natural--as cast" or semi-gloss black. If I were you, I'd assume that mine was semi-gloss black. The "natural-as cast" soon becomes "natural rust". I actually believe that most mid-years were semi-gloss black.
The sway bars were either "natural--as forged" or dip-painted semi-gloss black. The steering knuckles(front spindles), steering arms("dogbones"), tie-rod ends, tie-rod sleeves, steering relay rod, and idler arm were all natural, unpainted.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Re: correct finish idler arms and steering linkage
Tony-----
The steering boxes were either "natural--as cast" or semi-gloss black. If I were you, I'd assume that mine was semi-gloss black. The "natural-as cast" soon becomes "natural rust". I actually believe that most mid-years were semi-gloss black.
The sway bars were either "natural--as forged" or dip-painted semi-gloss black. The steering knuckles(front spindles), steering arms("dogbones"), tie-rod ends, tie-rod sleeves, steering relay rod, and idler arm were all natural, unpainted.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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More Front End Finishes
I just like to add to Joe's response, the tie rod clamps and tie rod sleeves typical as new finish appeared as a black dry film such as black oxide. Black oxide does not provide much rust protection and does not last long. The lower ends of the spindles are orange inspection painted (typically not always). The steering arm below the steering box on non power steering cars is typically painted black while PS cars is natural (again typically not always). I have no understanding why this was done. The small block only steering stabilizer is battle ship gray in color. The brackets securing the stablizer are black semi gloss painted. Suspension a-arms (all four), bushings and forged cast rods are painted gloss black as an assembly less ball joints. Double nuts securing the lower a-arms to the frame are natural. The NCRS manuals provides a lot of this detail but not all of it. Thats why doing some observer judging at meets helps out.Comment
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More Front End Finishes
I just like to add to Joe's response, the tie rod clamps and tie rod sleeves typical as new finish appeared as a black dry film such as black oxide. Black oxide does not provide much rust protection and does not last long. The lower ends of the spindles are orange inspection painted (typically not always). The steering arm below the steering box on non power steering cars is typically painted black while PS cars is natural (again typically not always). I have no understanding why this was done. The small block only steering stabilizer is battle ship gray in color. The brackets securing the stablizer are black semi gloss painted. Suspension a-arms (all four), bushings and forged cast rods are painted gloss black as an assembly less ball joints. Double nuts securing the lower a-arms to the frame are natural. The NCRS manuals provides a lot of this detail but not all of it. Thats why doing some observer judging at meets helps out.Comment
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