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  • Eric Fairclough

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    72 front end alignment

    Hello, My wife took the vette out to get a front end alignment yesterday and the guy had the car jacked up and said the drivers side wheel was moving 2" out when you pull it with your hands at 9 and 3 so he could not do the alignment since the back wheel have to be straight to align the front. He also said it looked like it was coming out of the rearend but he was stumped. He showed my wife and she saw it moved about 2" but last night when i got home ( my wife was working at this point) I jacked up the rear of the car using one floor jack on the rearend and tried to pull and push the wheels myself (i had the car in park)and they were perfectly tight. My wife is off tomorrow night so she will show me what this guy was talking about. The car runs perfectly fine though and no noise from the rear of the car. If it moved this much it seems like there would be some indication while driving it. Has anyone ever heard of this? I'll keep you posted on the progress of this. Thanks Eric
  • Shannon Burgess

    #2
    Re: 72 front end alignment

    Eric, it sounds as though the side yoke in the differential is either worn, or the snap ring has come loose. When you jack the car up, use another jack to unload the end of the rear spring before you try to push in and out on the tire. If you see the yoke moving in and out of the differential more than 1/8" you'll need to remove the diff and determine what the problem is.

    Shannon

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    • Eric Fairclough

      #3
      Re: 72 front end alignment

      Hi Shannon, Thaks for the info. I will do the 2 jack thing to check this. It seems weird that if this is a snap ring or a worn yoke that it would't just come off. I guess the leaf spring and sway bars are holding the wheel in. I took the car to work today and i am getting tires on it tonight. If it is the snap ring is it something i should replace immediatly or can i wait a few weeks? Eric

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      • Shannon Burgess

        #4
        Re: 72 front end alignment

        Eric, if the snap ring has fallen off then the yoke could come out, but it takes a lot of travel to get the yoke out with all the other suspension components connected. If the yoke is work, the end will have "mushroomed" out and it will not easily slip through the splines in the carrier to come out.

        If your rear camber is within adjustment and the yoke is not contacting the differential case, you could be safe in waiting a few weeks before doing the repair.

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        • Eric Fairclough

          #5
          Re: 72 front end alignment

          I just talked to the alignment guy and he said that he jacked it up closest to the wheel. He said the passenger side han 1 1/2 to 2 inches of play in it and the drivers side was less. He also said he was no corvette specialist but he talked to a corvette specialist that has a shop on west liberty ave and they said most likely it was the bearings in the trailor arm that had the play in them. Is this ok to drive until i get them rebuilt? Thanks Eric

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11372

            #6
            Re: 72 front end alignment

            ERic,

            yes, there are hundreds if not thousands of Corvettes with rear bearings like yours. I would say that unless you hear noise, just wait until it's time to put it away for the winter. Then, remove each trailing arm and send to Van Steel (or Bair's or whomever your favorite is). DO NOT let a local guy touch them.

            BTW, according to my own conversations with Art of Van Steel, the driver's side wears out much faster and more often than the passenger's. I'd be surprised if it's the other way around on yours. I suspect that it may be the rear yokes causing as much problem. I've gone 25,000 miles on worn ones, so you can go a while too unless you already planned on having your differential rebuilt. Mine is finally coming out this winter.

            I'm sure that someone will tell you to hurry and get it fixed right away. I wouldn't, but that's just my experience. I think you may need to get under there with the alignment guy and see for yourself as well.

            Patrick
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Duke W.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 1, 1993
              • 15229

              #7
              Re: 72 front end alignment

              "He said the passenger side han 1 1/2 to 2 inches of play in it and the drivers side was

              less. He also said he was no corvette specialist but he talked to a corvette specialist

              that has a shop on west liberty ave and they said most likely it was the bearings in the

              trailor arm that had the play in them."

              There is NO WAY that the trailing arm bearings could have 1.5-2" end play. so much for that Corvette specialist. Maybe you can find someone in your local NCRS chapter to help you inspect your car or steer you to a competent vintage Corvette specialist.

              Under most driving conditions the half-shaft is in compression. A number of owners have reported driving their cars with excess differential side yoke end play without ill affect, but it's something that should eventually be addressed.

              Duke
              Duke

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              • Eric Fairclough

                #8
                Re: 72 front end alignment

                Duke, Do you think i could drive 400 miles down to my bothers where i was going to store it for the winter? If i found someone else that knows about corvettes do you think this car could be front end aligned as it sits now? Thanks Eric

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                • Duke W.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • January 1, 1993
                  • 15229

                  #9
                  Re: 72 front end alignment

                  As I said, a number of owners have reported no driving problems with excess axle side yoke end play. I hesitate to give you a personal judgement without actually inspecting the car, especially with the conflicting information - whether the excess play was in the axle or wheel bearings, but as I said if you had 1.5-2.0 inches of end play in the wheel bearings the car would be undriveable.

                  The axle end play problem does not affect front end alignment readings or settings.

                  Duke

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1989
                    • 11372

                    #10
                    Re: 72 front end alignment

                    Eric,

                    Yes it can be aligned.

                    Yes, it can be driven.

                    Remember, I've put on 25,000 (twenty five thousand) miles on my differential with a fair amount of end play. It clunks slightly when put into gear, whines at speed, and that's it. This winter is the rebuild.

                    You really need to inspect it yourself or with a real Corvette-knowledgeable mechanic so that you can see where the play is coming from. As Duke noted, it is NOT from the rear bearings, or it wouldn't be driveable. Rear bearing wear is measured in thousandths of an inch, not in inches themselves.

                    Patrick
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                    • Eric Fairclough

                      #11
                      Re: 72 front end alignment

                      Thanks for the info guys. I think i will continue to drive it like this and i will try to find another alignment place that can do a corvette before my drive to N.C. I will get the trailing arms done at some point in the future though. Thanks Again

                      Eric

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