1968 Bowtie Dilemma..Quandry...Judging Error???

[Paul B.]

I've had my Silver '68 Coupe judged at Stone Mountain & SevenSprings Regionals, with a judges deduction on an issue that I wonder if the right call was made and what I did about it. Anyways, my 42,000mi very original '68 got signed off for Bowtie at Stone Mountain in the hopes of taking it in the future to a National(Hershey was full this year in the '68-'72 BowTie class, so I did'nt take it). Well, the issue was or deduction was "paint on halfshafts, u-joints, diff yokes & spindle yokes". Well, wanting to remove this paint, which I did very carefully, the results are what amazes me. This supposedly black paint was or so it seemed like factory chassis black or the asphaltic type paint/sound deadner as when I removed it, it did not come off like ordinary paint-matter of fact, it came off with kerosene, which will not remove paint. Anyways the halfshafts, diff and spindle yokes look now like NOS. This paint/chassis black could have only been put on when the car was brand new at the factory. Also this material is all over the top of the differential(where I can't reach with the car assembled) without a trace of any of it on the underbody!!! So it could'nt have been done when the car was assembled!!! At Bloomington this year, 2 other very original '68 "Survivor" cars were exactly as mine. I guess my question is we always thought the halfshafts were "natural", but WERE THEY??? In Noland Adams '63-'67 book, photos in there clearly show "black halfshafts". Other pieces in those photos that are clearly natural like fasteners, lower shock mounts and such are easily detectable. So now here is MY DILEMMA-If I were to have left everything alone, they would have failed the shafts, yokes, u-joints because of the "paint" and they have been modified "from factory original"(I judge BowTie myself). Now, because the yokes, u-joints, halfshafts look NOS, now the judges will say "Those have been obviously replaced" because they don't "FLOW" with the rest of the "chassis' age". Hmmmmm, how much is a can of Semi-Black Krylon?????

[Paul B.]

35 Views & No Comments-Must Be A Stumper!!!

or everyone's looking for their "Noland Adams Book"??????????????????????????

[Kevin M.]

Re: 35 Views & No Comments-Must Be A Stumper!!!

I can't believe you removed the coating BEFORE asking this question. I think from your post, you removed factory original coating. But I don't know C3s.

Kevin

[Paul B.]

Re: 35 Views & No Comments-Must Be A Stumper!!!

Kevin, yeah I know maybe I should'nt have removed it-MAYBE I should have known better, but then again, that's why I had it judged too-at TWO Regionals!!!

[Loren L.]

I tried to send you a telephone # of an

original owner by mail through the "system" only to be told that I could not do so -= wonder why the option exists. In any case, send me an email at
loren.lundberg@cox.net and I'll give you the unlisted # of an original owner of a 69 coupe that has been through the Duntov/Bloomington process successfully - he may even have pictures.

[Kevin M.]

Re: I tried to send you a telephone # of an

Paul,

First you wanted a post

Second I hope your car was not mis-judged and your currrent condition is correct.

Keep us posted as to the outcome, I don't know why it would have changed in 68. It sounds like a real nice car and I like Bow Tie cars the best.

Kevin

[Patrick H.]

Re: 1968 Bowtie Dilemma..Quandry...Judging Error??

Paul,

You know my yellow 72.

There are things on my 72 that were also mis-judged at the Seven Springs Regional. And, by golly, by the Chassis judges most of all. Have I changed them? Removed overspray? Done anything to a car that hasn't been changed since 1972?

Nope. I knew they were incorrect, argued the deduction, but let it go. The judges at National NEVER BROUGHT UP the same issues.

Rule #1 of original cars: BELIEVE THE CAR, even if you are a judge yourself or other judges tell you otherwise.

Rule #2: when in doubt, consult Rule #1.

Yes, you should have left it alone. I'd insert the appropriate name here, but you're likely already calling yourself that name. :?D

Time for some purchase of asphaltic chassis paint?

Patrick

[Paul B.]

Yeah, I know but,...

I don't believe I did any harm, other than "removing" a coating that "they" thought was wrong anyways. There was no way the halfshafts, top of differential, yokes, u-joints were done when the body was "on the frame". This was done BEFORE the body was dropped. I won't "re-apply" any asphaltic paint, because it'd look to new anyways. Actually, the halfshafts, yokes and u-joints don't look NOS as one might think as I first mentioned, as where some of this "coating" was aging off, rust was starting to form. It is where this stuff was heavily applied the areas here look like mint raw steel!!! Maybe I'll drive it all Winter here in Ohio in the salt to get everything nice and rusty!!!

[Patrick H.]

Re: Yeah, I know but,...

Paul,

It just makes you wonder if the blackout process changed throught the 1968 model year. I don't recall your build date, but did they use a heavier "midyear style" blackout process early, and then go to the very abbreviated blackout we're used to later on?

Now you have something to investigate....

If you reapply the paint, and drive down a dusty or gravel road while it's still wet, I'd bet it would "age" quickly in appearance.

Patrick

[Loren L.]

If you can't be bothered to contact me

for an original owner's name and #, then I guess you don't really care - you're just taking up space and time.

[Warren F.]

Re: If you can't be bothered to contact me

If you are re-creating finishes, doesn't that negate the idea of a Bowtie?

[Dennis C.]

Re: If you can't be bothered to contact me

Thank you Warren...