TIM&JG available in electronic format?

[Jon S.]

Are any of the judging manuals available in electronic format (doc or PDF)? Maybe I'm just lazy (a distinct possibility), but I'd love to be able to search the text for what I am looking for rather than having to read through everything.

Thanks,
Jon #10673

[Dennis C.]

Re: TIM&JG available in electronic format?

Jon - Lazy - or - just don't want to spend the money to buy one ??? No insult intended, just asking...

[Duke W.]

Re: TIM&JG available in electronic format?

Dennis - Jon is a consultant for Microsoft, so he's at the leading edge of new tech. If the JG library were available in PDF he'd probably carry them around in his pocket in a package smaller than his wallet.

Duke

[Chuck S.]

Shhhhh...Don't Giv'em Any Ideas, Jon...

If they put the TIM&JGs on CDs, they'll probably cost $200 apiece.

[Jon S.]

Re: TIM&JG available in electronic format?

Ouch - that hurts. But maybe that's a fair question (but only maybe, since I would expect to have to buy an electronic copy anyway), but as a matter of fact, I already have purchased 2 editions of the printed judging manuals for my cars, the ops guide, and the Judging Reference Manual. How else would I know that it's a PIA to find exactly what you're looking for (although the 3rd edition 68-69 manual is much, much better).

[Dennis C.]

Because of a lack...

of computer skills, it would take me much longer to find something on the computer than it would with the JG in my hands. My idea of a laptop is a yellow sticky note and a ball point pen. Way too old, I guess... I'm always amazed at what can be done with the modern electronics. Now, if I could just figure out how to record a TV show with our video recorder.

[Todd H 26112]

Re: TIM&JG available in electronic format?

I'd like to know the same thing...

W/ respect to your question - the answer in my case is NEITHER - I simply live in 2003. Preferring documents electronically is hardly a basis for being lazy - it's simply become or is becoming a standard. ...just answering.

(FYI I'm not sure my now ancient early generation PDA can handle documents of any size! )

[Todd H 26112]

Re: Because of a lack...

Just imagine, you could probably carry just about every JG ever written on a modern PDA. Few have much in the way of graphics so they should be fairly compact considering we're talking mostly text.

In fact I toyed w/ developing an application to enter scoring data and notes via PDA and at the end of the judging session - the information is electronically transferred to a laptop , tabulated, printed out and signed. I immediately dropped this idea when I stop to realize how unlikely some folks might take to things like 'graffiti' - heh heh - it was an entertaining idea for the 30 second or so that it lasted. - the technology just isn't quite there yet.

Doesn't NCRS keep records of all judged cars? Does NCRS scan images of score sheets and store electronic copies should the need arise to reference a prior judged result? Or is it photocopies or just a record of the final results?

[Jack H.]

Re: Because of a lack...

The only Flight archieves that exist consist of Scoring Summary Sheets (sometimes called the 'Green Sheet' or the 'Top Sheet'). The owner is the ONLY one who sees the full Flight Score Sheet package by club rules/policy--we WANT owner's to 'improve' on their restorations and each judging starts with a clean slate, without memory.

Until recently, these records were manually archieved. But, Roy Sinor has been working on an automated file retrieval system for use by the National Judging Chairman....

[Earl G.]

Re: Because of a lack...

Now, Now Todd,

Do you really think "they" want to bring the judging into the 21st century?

Gunner

[Mike M.]

Re: Because of a lack...

As i've had my chevys, fords, oldsmobiles and dodge antiques judged by the appropriate auto hobby clubs,and since i've been moderately involved in judging and being judged in NCRS, if NCRS is still in the 20th century (AD), then AACA, VCCA, DBC, SACC, Bowtie Chev etc have to be considered in a BC century. Mike

[Todd H 26112]

Re: Because of a lack...

Is that Gunner? Where have you been hiding dude!?

[Earl G.]

Re: Because of a lack...

Well, IMHO, just because other clubs and organization are in the stone age, doesn't mean that someone couldn't be on the leading edge (well almost) of technology.

It would not take a great deal to setup all of the judging docs, etc. onto electronic media. Yes, people would have to buy PDAs and notebook computers in order to judge etc. and would have to learn how to use them.

Gunner :V)

[Chuck S.]

Oh, I Don't Know, Mike...

Just think how easy it would be to get the "LARGE PRINT EDITION" with this new-fangled 21st century technology...we could just crank up the font size.

[Patrick H.]

Re: Because of a lack...

He's been hiding under various pieces of fragmented fiberglass.

Patrick