Restoration vs Preservation

[Bill B.]

Re: Restoration vs Preservation

Roy, you really cut straight to the ... My kind of guy!

[mike cobine]

Your Car

Kirk,

Your '67 sounds similar to a '67 I had in '74. You should add a picture to your post. If your VIN is 194377S107518, I have some paperwork for you.

[Kirk Turner]

Re: Your Car

Hi Mike,

No not my car, wish it was. I'd like to know more of its history

Thanks,

Kirk

[Paul Bigness]

Re: Your Car

I may be wrong to most, but I say make it the way you want it. It's your car.

Remember, Corvettes were one of the most modified cars at the time. So who cares if it is not exactly as new, if it makes you happy. We are so concerned with what others will think. If you want to be Top Flight then make it that way. If you want to make the way that makes you happy, then I say do that....

[mike cobine]

Simple Solution

A lot of people hash these topics over and over. However, there is a simple solution: NCRS is an organization like any other and it has rules for its competition. If you follow those rules to the fullest, you score the best. If you chose not to follow all, then you score less.

As such, if you want to preserve the car, you can. You can coat in it Cosmolene. You can seal it in a big block of clear epoxy. Or you can paint every surface you can find. However, the rules may have points deducted for doing such. But that is all. They don't put a gun to your head and they don't take your car away. You just lose a few points.

If your car is such that you feel you lose too many points, then you can simply not have your car judged. You can still enjoy what NCRS has without ever having a car judged.

So simply, don't sweat it. Do what you want. Just don't expect a large organization to change to accept what a few want. And for all the vocal “discussions” here, this is only a small number of the whole organization.

If you want to show your car, but you may not comply with every nit and pick of NCRS, then by all means check out your local Corvette Club. There is no substitute for joining a local club. You can get lots of great advice on how to change bearings or paint a car, but a couple of extra hands to hold an item or strip some paint is something the Internet and computer hasn’t quite solved yet.

If you want an organization that allows non-stock items, check out National Council of Corvette Clubs (NCCC) at http://www.corvettesnccc.org

They race, they rally, and they show cars. If you were at Nashville for the 50th, NCCC had a large turnout. Some will complain that there were many non-stock and highly customized cars, but actually, it was refreshing to see a few cars that were individualized. How many black '53s have you seen in your life?

But that isn't to say dump NCRS. You could belong to both, and enjoy the benefits of both.

There is no law that says you have to join NCRS and do everything that is in the book. But at the same time, don't expect a 15,000 member organization to change because 20 or 30 people want something different.

http://www.corvettesnccc.org/

[mike cobine]

Tracing old owners

One place you might check is this one below. There aren't too many on there, but you may get lucky.

If not, put yours on and maybe an old owner may find you.




http://www.vettesite.com/traces.asp

[Todd H 26112]

A 'few' want this?

"Just don't expect a large organization to change to accept [non-lacquer paint] a few want."

That surprises me because my antecdotal evidence doesn't remotely support that claim. Is there a survey that supports it? What about the silent 98% majority not involved in judging events or this forum?

[Vinnie P.]

How many have read

The Judging Reference Manual? It discusses the paint issue and says the paint should appear as lacquer. It can be BC/CC, single stage urethane or whatever. The trick is to make it appear as lacquer. Many members have been thru the system and have received Duntov/McLellan awards with BC/CC or single stage urethane vehicles. They took the time to make the paint appear as lacquer by toning down the door jambs, drip rails, etc.

[Todd H 26112]

Good Point - Not Enough I guess

That is a true point!

I think there is a fair bit of mis-conception floating around on this subject. Some folks complain of the current lacquer situation and others paint w/ the latest urethanes and getting the right techniques down and seem to do well by it.

Thanks for setting that point straight Vinnie.

[Joe C.]

Correctamundo Roy!

And remember that these cars are scornfully looked upon as "also rans".

Joe

[Joe C.]

You Are On The Right Track Chuck.............

.......but as long as it does not specifically state in the TIM&JG that "properly applied finishes that appear as original shall be acceptible substitutes for original materials", then those poor folks are at the mercy of judges who may elect to "discern" that a car is finished in BC/CC, and apply the appropriate ding.

My car was painted in the "lacquerthane" method. I shot black BC/CC to all the areas that were subsequently rubbed out at the factory, and black lacquer to all other areas. The finish is magnificent; so much so, that some judges might be inclined to say "the paint on this black car is too deep" DING.