Help decipher AZ Title; may have found orig owner

**Rick A.** · December 17, 2003, 08:52 PM

Re: Help decipher AZ Title; may have found orig ow

Jack,

Is Alan Landeen in Caribou, Maine an owner or was this a dealership? Just curious as that is whom you say Joseph Bozza bought the car from. I would assume this same Joseph Bozza is the owner that registered the car in Arizona in 1963?

**Jack U.** · December 17, 2003, 10:19 PM

Help decipher AZ Title; may have found orig owner

Alan Landeen is in Caribou, ME. and I believe he is a private individual. I have a phone number for him (via directory assistance). I believe he MAY have purchased the car and titled it in ME. in November 1963.

Joseph Bozza I believe purchased the car from Alan on or before 10/31/1994 (date on AZ title record).

I have no idea how the car got from Maine to Arizona. Maybe through Sumner
IL.?

Jack

**Rick A.** · December 17, 2003, 10:28 PM

Re: Help decipher AZ Title; may have found orig ow

Jack,

It sure sounds like you have found the original owner in Maine! CONGRATS!

**Jack U.** · December 17, 2003, 10:45 PM

I hope that's the owner. Is dealer name far behind

THANKS! I can hardly believe I may have lucked-out on this search on the first inquiry.

I forgot to mention that on the AZ title records it shows "Last Price" as "004252". If you remember, that is the base price of the Coupe with no options.

I left a message on Alan Landeen's answering machine explaining my interest in the car's history while he owned it. I hope that he doesn't feel that I'm intruding in his life.

Joseph Bozza has a non-pub. phone number BUT I believe I have his mailing address on at least one of the records. Next to Alan, Joseph had the car the longest. I'll probably send him a "snail mail" asking if he would like to discuss his brief history with the car.

What's left? Would a potential Chevy dealer in Caribou, ME. still be in business 40 years later and have any records going back 40 years? I think I'm going to try that next while I'm on "a roll".

Jack

**Chuck S.** · December 18, 2003, 12:34 AM

Re: I hope that's the owner. Is dealer name far be

"Would a potential Chevy dealer in Caribou, ME. still be in business 40 years later and have any records going back 40 years?"

Jack, if it could happen anywhere, it would be likely to happen in Maine in my opinion. Congrats and good luck.

**Garry Barnes** · December 18, 2003, 09:32 AM

Re: I hope that's the owner. Is dealer name far be

Jack,
Get on the internet and type into your search engine "telephone directory". I use Google. Select one of the many listed and follow the promps. If you think you have a current or previous address on Joseph Bozza target that geographical area first. With a name like his, there may not be many around and it also may lead you to brothers/family members that could lead you to him. Also, you will notice that there are services listed that for a small fee you can get more information on Mr. Bozza that could help you put the pieces together. This may save you some leg work and time. You can also try it for the dealership. Congratulations and good luck!

Garry

**Loren L.** · December 18, 2003, 09:41 AM

Nov 63 indicates when the car was

first registered/licensed - NOT necessarily to Mike Bozza. There could be 100 owners between him and the original owner. The original owner's title will be DATED November 1963, unless the MVD clerk screwed up. What you have is 3 years of titles - bring it back to B-J and go 4-for-4.

**Jack W.** · December 18, 2003, 10:10 AM

Re: I hope that's the owner. Is dealer name far be

congrats on the treasure trove of info from AZ DMZ - they also really jump-started my search for ownership info on my C2. In my view, any info that gives up prior owners and location info is helpful.

as for what you have, I suggest you look at the EARLIEST title document in the materials you obtained, and locate the date of ISSUANCE of THAT title. That should tell you how far back you have gotten in the chain. Likely it is an AZ title, but AZ also collects and retains (or at least they used to retain) out of state titles when the vehicle was brought into AZ and titled, at which point the out-of-state title was "turned in". Such was how I got my hands on a 2000 CA title document for my 65, even though I knew of the CA title the CA DMV itself surely wasn't cooperating but AZ gave me what CA refused to do. As for selling price, the DMVs give you a copy of the back of the title, and the REPORTED sales price to the next owner is usually indicated there (note of course that many folks under-report this figure to avoid the tax or registration fee hit).

In any event, recall my earlier advice where I suggested that any scrap of info (repair invoice, financing documents, powers of attorney, whatever) that gives up the name of a state where your car MAY have been located for a time is a state where you should do a DMV records search. Since you seem to have indication of a Maine owner, I strongly suggest you pick up your DMV search there, while still also pursuing the intermediate owners for more info.

As for Chevy dealerships CURRENTLY in biz in Caribou, a quick net check only shows a F*rd new car dealership, but I have been wrong before. Good luck!

**Steve Pettit** · December 18, 2003, 02:54 PM

Re: I hope that's the owner. Is dealer name far be

I have a question that may seem a little silly, I know the original owner (worked with my dad) I'm 2nd owner of my 66. Is there any sort of documentation or anything like that I should be getting from him. He justs wants a picture, I'll send him a bunch.

Regards,
Steve Pettit

**Loren L.** · December 18, 2003, 06:33 PM

He should have a Corvette owner's pin,

an owner's card and some issue of Corvette News........unless he was too SMART to send in the little card in the back.

**Mike M.** · December 18, 2003, 06:59 PM

Re: He should have a Corvette owner's pin,

Card in front, big dummy. merry christmas, mike

**Jack U.** · December 18, 2003, 09:21 PM

It's not a Maine car either; maybe Idaho....

I called Alan Landeen. A very pleasant person to talk to about Corvettes.
He's not the original owner. Alan owned it for about 1 year and hardly drove
it mostly due to the weather in the area. He sold the car to Joseph Bozza
in Scottsdale over the phone for $30,000. Hence the lien record from AZ.

Alan is going to track down more names for me on the previous owners.

He bought the car from someone in Moncton, New Brunswick.
That person bought the car from someone in Timmins, Ontario.
Apparently this person restored the car during the time he owned it which
Alan said was for quite a while. That person had many Corvettes.
The person in Timmins, bought it in Idaho "from some potato farm".
Alan got all of this information while he owned the car.

I guess it's on to Idaho to see what they have that is older than 10 years.

What Fun!

Jack

**Rick A.** · December 18, 2003, 09:38 PM

Re: It's not a Maine car either; maybe Idaho....

So, the suspense builds! Thought you really had something there with Alan! Sounds like possibly THREE prior owners to Alan? Might be worth trying to run the Canadian owners to ground also.

**Patrick H.** · December 18, 2003, 11:20 PM

Timmins, ONT

You know, I've been to Timmins, and we're not exactly talking the size of NYC here. I would think that someone with an older Corvette is going to stand out in that small town.

There are several outfitters for hunting and fishing in the area. If you ever go to any of the sport and fishing shows in the winter, I'm sure you'll find someone from Timmins and be able to ask about it. I know I see several from that area when I visit the local show in February.

I'm sure there is an easy way to find out the owner.

Good luck,

Patrick

Help decipher AZ Title; may have found orig owner

Help decipher AZ Title; may have found orig owner

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