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  • Christopher R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 31, 1975
    • 1599

    Starter Brace and Starter P/N Question

    Trying to buy a starter brace for a non-original starter in my '62. The brace listed for '62s does not fit. Have also tried other mongrel braces. It seems that there are various lengths for Delco starters. I believe the starter should have a brace because it mounts into the engine block, and not the bell housing. The starter is stamped 1108763 and dated 4 D 4 (April 19, 19?4). Anybody know what that is? I figure if I can determine what the starter came out of, I can by a brace for that.

    May not be a Chevy starter. Corvette starters for 1974 were only up to p/n 11084nn. The AC Delco site lists their p/n for this as 323-364. AC Delco then lists 10 pages of GM products that this starter fitted. Lots of Caddies, Buicks, GMCs. The Corvette applications were checked for braces, but different braces are listed in the Corvette parts manual. So, that cross checking was no help. There's lots of starter braces in Chevy parts manuals. Seems like I need to find what car this starter came on originally, so I can order a brace specifically for it.
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43193

    #2
    Re: Starter Brace and Starter P/N Question

    chris-----

    The starter that you have originally resided on a 1975 Buick with 455 cid engine. At least, that's what the starter FRAME originally resided on. The rest of the starter, we don't know. The chances are that the rest of this starter was reconfigured by a commercial rebuilder for a Chevrolet application.

    For the Chevrolet application, and, possibly, the Buick application, too, the starter should have one through bolt with a threaded extension. This bolt is GM #1941111.

    The brace to be used is more relevent to the engine application than it is to the original application of the starter. As I say, this starter has likely been re-configured, anyway. Even if it hasn't, these GM starters, regardless of original application, are all configured about the same.

    For you engine application, brace GM #354353 should work. If not, then I would expect that GM #3965589 would be the one. Beyond that, I don't know.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Clem Z.
      Expired
      • January 1, 2006
      • 9427

      #3
      Re: Starter Brace and Starter P/N Question

      the braces were used on "hi torque" starters and they are longer than the std one. the "hi torque" ones have about 1" or so extra length past were the lead from the solenoid go into the case

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      • Dennis C.
        NCRS Past Judging Chairman
        • January 1, 1984
        • 2409

        #4
        Re: Starter Brace and Starter P/N Question

        To my knowledge, 1962 manual transmission engines used no starter brace. P/G engines may have used one, but my recall is limited in that area without checking.

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        • Christopher R.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • March 31, 1975
          • 1599

          #5
          Re: Starter Brace and Starter P/N Question

          '62 manual transmission (MT) cars had no starter brace. '62 PG cars did.

          On '62 MT cars, the starter bolts to the bell housing with horizontal bolts. On '62 PG cars, the starter bolts to the block with vertical bolts.

          I thought the bolt arrangment determined whether Chevy thought a brace was needed or not.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43193

            #6
            Re: Starter Brace and Starter P/N Question

            chris-----

            Virtually all, if not all, 1963+ applications, which all used the vertical starter mounting bolt configuration, used a starter brace. So, if you're using the 63+ configuration in a 62, then you really should have the brace.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Christopher R.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • March 31, 1975
              • 1599

              #7
              Re: Starter Brace and Starter P/N Question

              I agree. And I've bought about 3 of them. So far, none of them fit. I'll try your recommendation. Thank you.

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