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  • Joe S.
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    • July 31, 1999
    • 319

    Frame Paint (Revisited)

    My 63 Frame will be ready for paint by Saturday. My original plan was to use some type of primer and then shoot it with Krylon #1613 as I have seen recommended from a judging perspective.

    If was also suggested that I go with some type of catalized epoxy based product and adjust the flatness to get the right semi-gloss look. The epoxy being considered more industrial strength and would hold up much better.

    I'll be searching the archives in the meantime. But being I only have a couple of days to get this done, was looking for some additional feedback.

    Thanks again,

    Joe..




    Joe's 63 FI Convertible
  • Craig S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • June 30, 1997
    • 2471

    #2
    Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

    Joe - I am assuming you are having he frame sandblasted before painting, make sure they don't use sharpshot instead of fine sand or you will have damage. Some blasters in my area here in Tucson like to use the rougher materials for speed. I would then use Dupont DP90 epoxy primer, and follow with a flattened number 99 black or something similar in gloss to it. Remember the midyears used that tar type paint anyway and did not look very good, they were doused with a hose at the Dow Smith plant, I believe upside down, and had runs. Very few folks want to make them look that bad when you get to this stage....good luck!.......Craig

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    • Rob A.
      Expired
      • December 1, 1991
      • 2126

      #3
      Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

      I used to use the Krylon you are referring to. I found that Plasticote Anti-Rust Enamel, semi-gloss #361 is just as easy to apply and is closer to the original degree of gloss. It can be re-applied anytime and used with or without a primer, covers extremely well and dries quickly. It duplicates the semi-gloss found on original GM parts very well. Pep Boys carries it.

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      • Wayne P.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • August 31, 1975
        • 1025

        #4
        Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

        The DP-90 is actualy now DPLF-90 ,but it is a Ditzler product. Works well and will not require top coating.

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        • Chuck R.
          Expired
          • April 30, 1999
          • 1434

          #5
          Re: Frame Paint

          Hi Joe,

          I used a self etching primer followed with John Deere Medium gloss on my 68 frame. It came out with the dull satin finish very close ( in my humble estimation anyway )to the original look.

          I have a couple of long shots pics. of the finished product if your interested and can also take close up shots tonight as well.

          As I cannot provide pictures to the tech board, e-mail me directly and I will send you the two shots I have.

          Let me know,

          Chuck

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          • Eric Eade

            #6
            Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

            I also used the epoxy primer a few months ago and had great results. Be prepared to use a well ventilated booth and a mask as this stuff can be nasty to breath. It goes on well and is tough but leaves a nice semi-gloss finish. Take the time to wipe or spray down with a wax and grease remover first. Eric

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            • Ray C.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • June 30, 2001
              • 1132

              #7
              Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

              When I sprayed my 65 frame I used DP-90 form PPG. The North East PPG regional rep stated that it should be top coated. That DP-90 would break down over time and to any UV light. I applied PPG DELSTAR Polyurethane Acrylic catalyzed enamel with a flattening agent.

              Ray #36314
              Ray Carney
              1961 Sateen Silver 270-HP
              1961 Fawn Beige 315-HP

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              • Joe S.
                Expired
                • July 31, 1999
                • 319

                #8
                Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

                Thanks everyone for the input.

                I do have a booth available to me and all the equipment (friends shop). After blasting we will blow it off with air and then prepsol it. Followed by primer and an epoxy semi-gloss finish. I hope to do it this Saturday if all goes to plan.

                Thanks again,

                Joe..




                Joe's 63 FI Convertible

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                • Eric Eade

                  #9
                  Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

                  Joe,
                  If you go with epoxy, that is a primer. There isn't an epoxy paint to go over it. After you clean the frame, spray it with an etching product then apply the epoxy primer. The primer is tough and will give the semi-gloss color you are looking for.

                  I used the PPG product and start to finish took better part of a day. This stuff lays on nice so you won't have as much troubles with runs in the tight areas.
                  have fun, Eric

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                  • Tracy C.
                    Expired
                    • July 31, 2003
                    • 2739

                    #10
                    Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

                    Agree with all recommendations on the PPG epoxy (Ditzler) product. This primer comes in black, white, red and a light shade of army green. They all dry to a nice semigloss finish with no added flatner.

                    PPG did extensive salt spray testing on this stuff and it survived many more life times than your car will ever see. Your frame will rot from within before this stuff will break down.

                    Excellant product and worth the extra price.

                    tc

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                    • Craig S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 30, 1997
                      • 2471

                      #11
                      Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

                      Sorry I missed the brand and said Dupont, I meant PPG....guess I use Dupont so much....Craig

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                      • John Liner

                        #12
                        Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

                        Are you guys saying to just use the primer as a finished coat with no final paint applied?
                        John

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                        • Tracy C.
                          Expired
                          • July 31, 2003
                          • 2739

                          #13
                          Re: Frame Paint (Revisited)

                          John,

                          This is all I used (no top coat). Someone who knows what the judges look for may recommend some type of top coat to replicate a factory finish.

                          tc

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