I went to pep boys for a filter for my cannister type oil filter. Went I got home I opened it up and stamped on it was MADE IN INDIA...what will they think of next..?
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Re: PUROLATOR OIL FILTER...INDIA?
Why do you care where the filter is from as long as it is a qualitey part? Your step by step project has been interesting, cant wait to see what you do next, do you have a corroct oil cap and shocks on your 1967? -
Re: PUROLATOR OIL FILTER...INDIA?
Oil cap is original, shocks are physically same as original, but of course, not. I just never saw a filter made in india...have you?Comment
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RE; NEXT STEP
Actually, my next step is to prepare to sell the car. I now want a nice '66 small block roadster with air in "driver" condition all the way around, with only the main components original to the car.Comment
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Re: PUROLATOR OIL FILTER...INDIA?
I care because it means that more jobs have been lost to other countrys.Comment
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Re: WELL SAID LARRY
It seems almost impossible to buy parts or anything else that is made right here at home. And we wonder why unemployment and welfare is so high!.
TerryComment
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Re: PUROLATOR OIL FILTER...INDIA?
Ditto.Comment
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Re: WELL SAID LARRY
Actually the welfare roles in most states are at their lowest levels in decades - the result of welfare reform legislation passed in the mid 90s. Unemployment rates overall are fairly low by historical standards. Certainly there are some regions that are suffering more than others.
I would rather have people in India manufacturing fairly low value items like oil filters than performing higher skilled functions such as computer programming or business process outsourcing. That is more of a threat. Most of the parents I know encourage their kids to pursue careers in science, computers, etc - not assembly line manufacturing.
Manufacturers in India are more likely to compete with China or Mexico than the US. Most of those jobs left the US years ago so I don't really see them taking a job away from someone here.Comment
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Many vendors display "made in USA"...
And as long as we are willing to pay more for these parts, they will continue to provide them. Having said that, unfortunately, "made in USA" is no guarantor of quality. During the summer, I frequently have the opportunity to compare parts, and although usually the "USA" parts are better, there are notable exceptions. Additionally, USA manufacturers usually require a much higher quantity threshhold, ie., an "offshore" manufacturer may only require 500 pieces, where the USA maker would require 1000, usually at a higher price. This can run to some serious cash. I am told that the tooling for the '68 Shelby grille opening moulding, 5 pieces about 1/2" wide, cost about $30,000. They are probably going to have to sell a set to EVERY '68 Shelby owner to pay for it. I once looked into repro-ing exhaust clamps, and the smallest quantity they would do at that time was 10,000.Comment
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Welfare andUnemployment
Just because they"re no longer collecting welfare is no sign they have a job. And if they don't have a job they are collecting some kind of relief. Ditto with unemployment, where are the figures for the amount of EMPLOYED. Where are the statistics for all the unemployed whose benefits ran out. If these figures are so great why is the economy in such dire straits, sure upper midlle class is doing OK, but the blue collar worker is suffering, as usual. As my daddy always said, figures don't lie, but liars can sure figure!Comment
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Re: Many vendors display "made in USA"...
And you can thank our good ol goverment for that. If we had import duties in line with others countries, off shore makers would have to make 10,000 to get a profit also. You are comparing apples to oranges.
TerryComment
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It cuts both ways... (long)
Most other countries charge a whopping 25-50% or more import duty (unlike us), so when I send a $100 part to Europe, the buyer would have to fork over part$ + shipping$ + duty$, now the part cost him almost $400. No wonder we do not sell much overseas. The answer is not for us to charge high import duty, which would simply kill the sales, it is for US to get other countries to stop raping American export customers. If you had to pay 3 times as much for an import repro part, it wouldn't make US parts more plentiful, it would make repro parts more scarce. My personal parts buget is the same, regardless of where the part comes from. Remember, though, many of these countries have such niceties as "free" health care, which has to be paid for somehow. Even Canada, our good neighbor to the north, engages in this sort of export charges. Ever tried to return a defective item purchased from Canada? Basically, it can't be done, because such a return would be considered an "export".Comment
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Re: It cuts both ways... (long)
I'd rather have the high import duties and keep Americans working then try to compete with sweat shops overseas. Travel to some of these countries and you'll see what I mean. They keep import duties high so we can't compete with there cheap labor een if we have superior products.
TerryComment
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Re: PUROLATOR OIL FILTER...INDIA?
Rob------
I expect that the main problem here is that the PF-141 style filters are in such low demand these days that manufacture of them has been "consolidated". It may be that the use of this type filter in India (not necessarily the PF-141, but this style oil filter) is more widespread, so that manufacturing capability has been consolidated there. Or, it may be that some manufacturer in India is the only one willing to produce this type filter at a price that the market is willing to pay. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the PF-141 filters in the boxes of all of the major brands don't, at some point if not already, become ones made in India.
Keep in mind that the main market for the PF-141 filter are folks with old cars, in the US or abroad, that are just barely keeping them running. The market for these filters for collector cars, for which owners would be willing to pay a substantial price for them, is infinitesimal. Most of the folks that need them won't or can't pay much. So, the major brands have to seek a low cost source. If they were to be made here in the US in the kind of limited quantity that the market justifies, the price would likely be way out of whack with market realities---most of the customers would just do without. If the US were the only manufacturing source available for whatever reason, then the "discontinued" sign would likely go up.
Remember this simple fact-of-life: low production quantities of anything = HIGH COST PER UNIT. If you ever try to purchase parts for an aircraft, even non-mechanical or non-airframe parts, you will experience a STARTLING demonstration of this principle.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Pretty impressive profile you have there.
You failed to mention how far you have your head up your butt with a statement like you just made. How about the PARENTS YOU DON'T KNOW? MOST of the parents I knew when I was still raising kids were in the manufacturing business. Either on a professional baisis or down in the trenches type work. Unfortunately, these jobs have evaporated due to some in this country thinking the global economy was more important only because those that thought this was a good idea were safely tucked in on some relevant occupation that would remain safe from global dispersion of jobs from this country. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Your're gonna' spin around one day and find out that if your country is not manufacturing something, you are doing nothing but passing paper money which has no real value. Would you vote for Hillary?Comment
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