Engine lift points - NCRS Discussion Boards

Engine lift points

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Scott Landis

    Engine lift points

    What is the best way to lift my 1967 327/350 engine, with transmission, back into the car. I have a plate that bolts to the intake manifold. Is this a strong enough lifting point? The plate is 3/8 hardened steel, but I'm concerned about the strain on the manifold bolts. Any suggestions??
  • Peter J.
    Very Frequent User
    • September 30, 1994
    • 586

    #2
    Re: Engine lift points

    Scott. I have one of those engine lift plates too and I have seen them used by engine builders (mine included) But I didn`t trust it with my orginal 66 aluminum intake. I used the four outer bolt holes (manifold to head) with a Trans-Dapt engine tilter. Use longer bolts and a few washers to keep from marring tke intake. Good Luck.

    Comment

    • Peter J.
      Very Frequent User
      • September 30, 1994
      • 586

      #3
      Re: Engine lift points

      Scott. I have one of those engine lift plates too and I have seen them used by engine builders (mine included) But I didn`t trust it with my orginal 66 aluminum intake. I used the four outer bolt holes (manifold to head) with a Trans-Dapt engine tilter. Use longer bolts and a few washers to keep from marring tke intake. Good Luck.

      Comment

      • Gary Schisler

        #4
        Re: Engine lift points

        Scott, I wouldn't use the aluminum intake manifold as a lift point. Back off the four corner head-to-block bolts and go to your local hardware store to pick up four grade 8 bolts that are 1" longer than the ones you just took out. Use these grade 8 bolts, one at each corner of the block, to lift your engine. This is the procedure that I have used successfully for 3 engine pulls, all of which had the transmission attached.

        Gary, #21316 66 327/350

        Comment

        • Gary Schisler

          #5
          Re: Engine lift points

          Scott, I wouldn't use the aluminum intake manifold as a lift point. Back off the four corner head-to-block bolts and go to your local hardware store to pick up four grade 8 bolts that are 1" longer than the ones you just took out. Use these grade 8 bolts, one at each corner of the block, to lift your engine. This is the procedure that I have used successfully for 3 engine pulls, all of which had the transmission attached.

          Gary, #21316 66 327/350

          Comment

          • Bill W.
            Very Frequent User
            • November 1, 1977
            • 402

            #6
            Re: Engine lift points

            Mornin' Scott, While it looks flemsy, the alum. manifold is plenty strong enough to support the engine and trans. If you are pulling the engine with the body in place, a piece of 3/8" chain run diagonally from end to end of the manifold works well. Position your lift hook so the front of the engine comes up at a large angle, use a floor jack with rollers under the trans. Should come out with no problems, one thing I forgot, be sure to remove the fuel pump. If you are pulling the engine from a rolling frame you don't need a large "angle" on the engine/trans unit for removal. Bill

            Comment

            • Bill W.
              Very Frequent User
              • November 1, 1977
              • 402

              #7
              Re: Engine lift points

              Mornin' Scott, While it looks flemsy, the alum. manifold is plenty strong enough to support the engine and trans. If you are pulling the engine with the body in place, a piece of 3/8" chain run diagonally from end to end of the manifold works well. Position your lift hook so the front of the engine comes up at a large angle, use a floor jack with rollers under the trans. Should come out with no problems, one thing I forgot, be sure to remove the fuel pump. If you are pulling the engine from a rolling frame you don't need a large "angle" on the engine/trans unit for removal. Bill

              Comment

              • John H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1997
                • 16513

                #8
                Re: Engine lift points

                Scott - I agree with Pete - don't trust four little 5/16" studs in aluminum to carry all that weight. I use the same setup Pete does - a Trans-Dapt (now "T-D") engine tilter with the four chains bolted to 2" Grade 8 bolts with hardened washers in each of the end manifold-to-head bolt holes. This rig makes it a simple one-man job to either pull or re-install the engine and tranny as a unit.

                Comment

                • John H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1997
                  • 16513

                  #9
                  Re: Engine lift points

                  Scott - I agree with Pete - don't trust four little 5/16" studs in aluminum to carry all that weight. I use the same setup Pete does - a Trans-Dapt (now "T-D") engine tilter with the four chains bolted to 2" Grade 8 bolts with hardened washers in each of the end manifold-to-head bolt holes. This rig makes it a simple one-man job to either pull or re-install the engine and tranny as a unit.

                  Comment

                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Re: Engine lift points

                    Scott----

                    While I generally agree with the other responders' advice and the adviseability of using lifting devices other than the carburetor flange-mounted lifting bracket, these brackets can be safely used IF you are sure to use Grade 8 bolts to attach it to the flange and properly torque the bolts. The combined tensile strength of 4 grade 8 5/16" bolts properly torqued FAR, FAR exceeds the weight of the engine.

                    However, I would look for a lifting bracket(plate) which meets ANSI or SAE standards. Many of these brackets, even inexpensive "foreign" made versions, actually do meet these standards and are usually so-specified.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

                    Comment

                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43193

                      #11
                      Re: Engine lift points

                      Scott----

                      While I generally agree with the other responders' advice and the adviseability of using lifting devices other than the carburetor flange-mounted lifting bracket, these brackets can be safely used IF you are sure to use Grade 8 bolts to attach it to the flange and properly torque the bolts. The combined tensile strength of 4 grade 8 5/16" bolts properly torqued FAR, FAR exceeds the weight of the engine.

                      However, I would look for a lifting bracket(plate) which meets ANSI or SAE standards. Many of these brackets, even inexpensive "foreign" made versions, actually do meet these standards and are usually so-specified.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

                      Comment

                      Working...

                      Debug Information

                      Searching...Please wait.
                      An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because you have logged in since the previous page was loaded.

                      Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                      An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired.

                      Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                      An internal error has occurred and the module cannot be displayed.
                      There are no results that meet this criteria.
                      Search Result for "|||"