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  • Roy B.
    Expired
    • February 1, 1975
    • 7044

    53 to 56 Voltage Reg. Trivia

    The reason I put the pic. up is to show that ALL "original" V.R 6V or 12V covers were held on by two long screws in each corner going through the cover as seen and DELCO. Later second design V.R using the same part number used two screws at the base of the cover that came in 57 up.. If your looking on E-bay having a pic. stating NOS original and numbers , look to see if the cover is held down like this pic. If not, it's NOT "original" first design. I don't think judges look for this ? only numbers!
    Dose any one know if they do???




  • Dave Suesz

    #2
    55 Voltage Reg. Trivia

    I got one of these NOS off eBay a while back, and there was a piece of red tape on the RH side with whith black letters reading:

    12-V
    12-V
    12-V

    The top and bottom of this were serrated just like Scotch tape. Next thing ya know the judges will be looking for this friggin' tape. Right now, there is no mention of this or the first design screw attachment in the NCRS JG. There should be. Once you know the difference between the original and replacemnt style VR, you can spot it ten feet away. I can supply photos to anyone who wants them.

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    • Roy B.
      Expired
      • February 1, 1975
      • 7044

      #3
      Re: 55 Voltage Reg. Trivia

      ME! ME!

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      • Roy B.
        Expired
        • February 1, 1975
        • 7044

        #4
        Re: 55 Voltage Reg. Trivia

        I'm always amazed how over spray and bolt colors are so concerning , but what a parts fiscal look is or first, second and third design means vary little or nothing. Numbers and paint color are at the top

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        • Dave Suesz

          #5
          Roy- you have mail...

          Roy-

          I have sent you 3 photos:

          NOS 55 original style VR with "12-V" decal (note high gloss finish)
          a 55 VR original style I think you sent me this photo
          My original 55 ballast resistor (note lack of outer notches)

          If you could post these, I think we could all appreciate it. Maybe they will even find their way into the NCRS JG...

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          • Mike M.
            NCRS Past President
            • May 31, 1974
            • 8365

            #6
            Re: Roy- you have mail...

            Dave: changes to the judging manual best accomplished by writing the team lead, in this case , dave ferguson, page 3 of restorer. mike

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            • Roy B.
              Expired
              • February 1, 1975
              • 7044

              #7
              Re: Roy- you have mail...

              That was a rare find on E-Bay and yes , it would have the sticker on it from the factory. You should remove it and using a copy printer make others to have and then send me some. Ha!




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              • Mike M.
                NCRS Past President
                • May 31, 1974
                • 8365

                #8
                Re: 55 Voltage Reg. Trivia

                i would guess, and its just a guess, that the red sticker indicates the voltage regulator is a service replacement. i doubt, but can't prove, that the voltage regulators shipped to st louis lacked the red sticker.i would frown if the sticker were presented for judging and would ask owner to document the presence of such a sticker on a c-1 as it left the st louis assembly plant. mike

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                • Dave Suesz

                  #9
                  Re: 55 Voltage Reg. Trivia

                  Remember, 1955 was a voltage changeover year for Chevy. Since the 6-V and 12-V VR were externally identical, and they were being produced at the same time, I'd think it very likely they did have the tape on the line- Production guys don't have time to check the part numbers, hence the common practice of color-coded paint daubs. The service replacements with diagonal retaining screws would have been produced at the same time as OE, and it would have been MORE effort for the manufacturer to attach them ONLY to the ones going to the factory. The 56 and later service VR's had the side screws, even if intended for the 55 application. Considering the diagonal screw type VR isn't even mentioned in the NCRS JG (which means the side screw replacement type is currently accepted as "correct"), I think the reverse is true- Prove the sticker ISN'T original, or accept it without deduction. The 12-V stickers on 55 headlamp bulbs are well documented.

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                  • Roy B.
                    Expired
                    • February 1, 1975
                    • 7044

                    #10
                    Re: 55 Voltage Reg. Trivia "mike"

                    This is my thinking
                    1. You "cant" tell the 6V from the 12V when the Corvettes were being built , because the 6V and 12V were being built at the same time.( easy to see the 12V sticker) And I don't think they would be told to remove the sticker so that the final inspector could see it.?
                    2. I also believe that is the reason GUIDE inbossed the light bulbs having the 12V in them was to do the same .
                    3. This was the year change from 6V to 12V and because of that , that is why it should have been on it . "Only my thinking". Any other thoughts??
                    And I agree that they were send to the parts Department the same , so as to ensure the counter guy that he did get the 12V unit.

                    This is another discussion on 12V bulbs for 55 Corvette. Between the change over from 6V to 12V as NCRS notes in their judging . Here are a set of NOS 12V bulbs with only STICKERS on them noting 12V about seven times( hard to see in this Pic). I believe their was a time between these where guide didn't inbossed the glass with 12V.
                    These are NOS in original boxes I have for them. SO 1955 Corvette in my opinion had three design bulbs.
                    1 Tin back ( showing NO 12V inbossed in the glass)
                    2 Tin back ( now showing 12V inbossed in the glass)
                    3 A true Seal beam (12V inbossed inbossed in the glass)
                    So we now have first, second and third design headlights.
                    But so little is known about 55 like early 56 and so few remain today , I don't think NCRS would be interested.




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                    • Roy B.
                      Expired
                      • February 1, 1975
                      • 7044

                      #11
                      Re: Dave we think alike, but 56 same early *NM*

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                      • Roy B.
                        Expired
                        • February 1, 1975
                        • 7044

                        #12
                        Re: First 55 bulb sticker 12V documented????????? *NM*

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                        • Roy B.
                          Expired
                          • February 1, 1975
                          • 7044

                          #13
                          Re: Dave & mike we the only two out there? *NM*

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                          • Dave Suesz

                            #14
                            55 lamps...

                            The way I heard it, the first design 12-V lamp was simply a 12V version of the 6V steel-back design, which had stickers applied to insure correct usage at factory and dealer. A running change added the embossed (debossed?) "12V", which means the only first-type survivors were the few EARLY replacement stock which somehow escaped ever being used. the vast majority of these were probably used in cars, since few lamps could be expected to burn out in new cars, remember the year before Chevy was 6V, so only cars under warranty could possibly need 12V lamps. Most of the steel back lamps were probably burned up within a few years, and all the replacements made after about a year were "T3" anyway. I have T3's on my car, got a bag of them at a junkyard years ago for nothing, much more satisfying than the big buck$ a pair of original "Guides" would cost me, without sweating blood every time I turn them on.

                            Thanks for posting that photo, Roy. How about putting up my resistor photo? (I love to make trouble).

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                            • Roy B.
                              Expired
                              • February 1, 1975
                              • 7044

                              #15
                              Re: 55 resistor OK Dave Tell us about it *NM*

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