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  • Wayne M.
    Expired
    • March 1, 1980
    • 6414

    #31
    Re: Lending Credibility

    Tom --- One way (sort of) to verify what Patrick has asked is to check both vent and side window glass date codes on that door, as well as any difference in tint from that found on the rest of the car's glass.

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    • Tom B.
      Very Frequent User
      • February 1, 1994
      • 779

      #32
      Re: former Glass Codes

      Details, Details. Good thing I keep good files on former cars. Well, as I mentioned, I was just giving the "Reader's Digest" version, trying not to detract from others offering their information.

      What was remarkable about the passenger door (other than paint) was it's near complete originality. The entire car (build date: Oct 65) had all of it's original glass, all of it date coded in some form of "x"J. And yes, it's condition was fairly obvious to be all original glass. The windshield was coded TJ (Aug 65), Drivers window was IJ (June 65), Drivers vent was JJ (May 65), Passenger window was AJ (Sept 65), Passenger vent was XJ (Feb 65). Everything about the window and vent assemblies appeared original and unremoved, even to the point of having it's original "dirt" inside the door. At one time I had thought of dis-assembling the window to add new bushings because it was a little loose and rattled from age, but I never got around to it.

      I would wonder over and over at times trying to think of something other than a factory replacement. If the door would have been damaged and later replaced by an owner, it just seemed to me to be all too unusual to have an exact match so easily available. Even to go to the trouble of removing all the glass and re-installing it, I don't think there was a previous owner that had "exact correctness" in mind if he was making repairs. It didn't appear to me to be able to add up in those ways.

      When the new owner called and told me the judging information, I was surprised I hadn't thought of looking for the PW wiring hole they had found. That was something I either forgot or overlooked. Also, it then seemed a possibility that the "E" part of the "422E" may have been a designation for "electric"? Beats me.

      Anyhow, that's about as much as I can piece together from memory and notes. Tom #24014

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      • Tom B.
        Very Frequent User
        • February 1, 1994
        • 779

        #33
        Re: former Glass Codes

        Details, Details. Good thing I keep good files on former cars. Well, as I mentioned, I was just giving the "Reader's Digest" version, trying not to detract from others offering their information.

        What was remarkable about the passenger door (other than paint) was it's near complete originality. The entire car (build date: Oct 65) had all of it's original glass, all of it date coded in some form of "x"J. And yes, it's condition was fairly obvious to be all original glass. The windshield was coded TJ (Aug 65), Drivers window was IJ (June 65), Drivers vent was JJ (May 65), Passenger window was AJ (Sept 65), Passenger vent was XJ (Feb 65). Everything about the window and vent assemblies appeared original and unremoved, even to the point of having it's original "dirt" inside the door. At one time I had thought of dis-assembling the window to add new bushings because it was a little loose and rattled from age, but I never got around to it.

        I would wonder over and over at times trying to think of something other than a factory replacement. If the door would have been damaged and later replaced by an owner, it just seemed to me to be all too unusual to have an exact match so easily available. Even to go to the trouble of removing all the glass and re-installing it, I don't think there was a previous owner that had "exact correctness" in mind if he was making repairs. It didn't appear to me to be able to add up in those ways.

        When the new owner called and told me the judging information, I was surprised I hadn't thought of looking for the PW wiring hole they had found. That was something I either forgot or overlooked. Also, it then seemed a possibility that the "E" part of the "422E" may have been a designation for "electric"? Beats me.

        Anyhow, that's about as much as I can piece together from memory and notes. Tom #24014

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        • Tom B.
          Very Frequent User
          • February 1, 1994
          • 779

          #34
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          I'm going to have to check further to see if I correctly made a note of something else. It had to do with an ink date stamp made onto the inside panels of both door's fiberglass. Both were very close, same month, June or July 2x, (no year designated though). If I find it I'll get back to you. Tom #24014.

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          • Tom B.
            Very Frequent User
            • February 1, 1994
            • 779

            #35
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            I'm going to have to check further to see if I correctly made a note of something else. It had to do with an ink date stamp made onto the inside panels of both door's fiberglass. Both were very close, same month, June or July 2x, (no year designated though). If I find it I'll get back to you. Tom #24014.

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