C2 Rear Differential Change

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  • Ralph E.
    Very Frequent User
    • February 1, 2002
    • 905

    #1

    C2 Rear Differential Change

    What would happen if I changed the stock differential, 3:70 gear ratio to 3:08.
    I have a 327/300 4 Speed convertible? Does the small block have enough power to drive this rear end?

    Ra;ph #37280
  • Tom D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • October 1, 1981
    • 2066

    #2
    Sure - even 250 HP and 3:08/1 is fine *NM*

    http://MichiganNCRS.org
    Michigan Chapter
    Tom Dingman

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    • Duke W.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • January 1, 1993
      • 15229

      #3
      Re: C2 Rear Differential Change

      It's the torque curve of an engine, not peak power, that dictacts suitable axle ratios. Both these engine had considerably more low end torque than the SHP/FI engines.

      The 250 and 300 HP engines included a standard 3.36:1 axle with all three transmissions. With the (wide ratio) four-speed, a 3.08 axle was optional.

      Duke

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      • Duke W.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • January 1, 1993
        • 15229

        #4
        PS

        Just to be clear, a 3.70 axle ratio was NOT available with the 250/300 HP engine and the only optional ratio was 3.08 with the four speed only - no optional ratios for the three-speed manual or Powerglide.

        Duke

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        • Ralph E.
          Very Frequent User
          • February 1, 2002
          • 905

          #5
          Re: PS

          Duke,
          My NCRS Spec Guide list the 3:70 rear for a 1965-1967 with a 327 engine. Since '67 base engine was a 300HP, I assumed that included both small blocks.

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          • William C.
            NCRS Past President
            • June 1, 1975
            • 6037

            #6
            Re: PS

            Standard rear with 300 hp was 3.36, but 3.70 was optional in the mid-years.
            Bill Clupper #618

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 42936

              #7
              Re: PS

              Ralph------

              No, a 3.70:1 ratio was not available with the 300 hp engine for ANY 63-70 Corvette regardless of transmission.

              Also, the only 4 speed transmission originally available with the 300 hp engines was the wide ratio (2.52:1 1st gear for 1967). If you still have the wide ratio transmission installed in the car, the 3.08:1 will be ok. However, if someone has installed a close ratio four speed (2.20:1), then I would not recommend using any rear ratio numerically lower than 3.36:1. Even 3.36:1 will be marginal in that case.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Ralph E.
                Very Frequent User
                • February 1, 2002
                • 905

                #8
                Re:C2 Differentials

                Thanks for your help. Back to the original question. It sounds like changing to a 3:08 rear could work out just fine if I choose to go that way.

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 42936

                  #9
                  Re:C2 Differentials

                  Ralph-----

                  It should IF the car still has a wide ratio four speed. Otherwise, with a close ratio, I don't think that you'll like the "off-the-line" performance with the 3.08:1.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Larry S.
                    Infrequent User
                    • September 1, 2000
                    • 0

                    #10
                    Re:C2 Differentials

                    I have a question if you dont mind.

                    Why are you going so deep on the gears? I would think thats quite a jump.Some place on line I had found a chart explain the difference in the gear changes in rpm's

                    I am going from a set of 4:11's to a set of 3:36's I was told for me it would be like staring out in third gear on my car. M21

                    I have a 427/425 and was able to start in third gear NO problem so I thought it would be great to have 3 more gears left to shift to.

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                    • Terry D.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 1, 1987
                      • 2656

                      #11
                      Re: PS-Joe-I'm Confused

                      Joe
                      Are you saying the NCRS spec guide is wrong on rear end ratio's? It lists mid years all the way up to a 4:56. If that's the case what else is wrong in the spec guide and why are they selling them with bogus info? Just curious.

                      Terry

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                      • Tom M.
                        Expired
                        • September 1, 2000
                        • 99

                        #12
                        Re:C2 Differentials

                        Larry,

                        I think it was on '67heavern's site. Glad to read on the CAC you are going back to stock, you seem half way there already,

                        Tom

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                        • Ralph E.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • February 1, 2002
                          • 905

                          #13
                          Re:C2 Differentials

                          Larry,

                          I was just wondering about making this change because someone has offered me a 3:08 Rear. I thought for highway driving it would be an improvement. Less RPM on the little engine. I have always thought I had a 3:70 rear. I can't read the markings very well. It looks like "A-something" but it is worn and not very legible.

                          Ralph

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                          • Wayne K.
                            Expired
                            • December 1, 1999
                            • 1030

                            #14
                            Re:C2 Differentials

                            Ralph,

                            A good way to know what your rear gearing is is to jack the rear of the car up ( both wheels off the ground ) and put a piece of tape on the drive shaft. Have someone turn a wheel once around and count the revolutions of the shaft. 3 1/2 turns would indicate 3:55, 3 3/4 turns 3:70, etc.

                            Wayne

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                            • Bill Jackson

                              #15
                              Re: C2 Rear Differential Change

                              Drive the 3:70s around using only 2,3,and 4th gear. That is what it will feel like if you change to the 3:08s. If it feels ok around town yhen you will really like the 3:08s on the highway. I went from 4:11s to 3:08s with a close ratio 4spd many years ago without regret although if I could magically have any ratio I'd try 3:36 or so.

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