C1 Upper Radiator Hose Markings

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  • Geoff C.
    Expired
    • June 1, 1979
    • 1613

    #1

    C1 Upper Radiator Hose Markings

    C1 Upper Radiator Hoses

    Gentlemen and the few Ladies present:

    I am a doubting Thomas when it comes to some of the markings that are purported to replicate original marks. Over the years I have examined many photographs illustrating old Corvettes. Mr. Noland Adams Vol. I and II have several photos dated when the particular Corvette model was new. Another source are old magazine articles that “road tested” a new Corvette. Also original book and manuals published by GM. Regretfully original cars are few and far between for examination.

    I have seen the following printing in evidence in many of these period dated photographs of upper radiator hoses:
    A numerical part number,
    A single or dual stripe,
    A date code,
    A two letter alphabetic length code,
    A two letter alphabetic vendor ID code,
    And the abbreviation GM

    I have never seen an ARROW or RAD marking in any of these old photos. It appears somewhat unusual that these marks have not yet been seen in photographs, when the other marks can be easily documented in many old photographs. Although the original blueprint may indicate such markings, that does not mean the actual parts were made with that printing. It is even possible that those notations were added years after the actual parts release for model year production. I have never seen a blueprint that indicated a single or dual inked stripe, however they are apparent in many old photos. What gives?

    Would someone PLEASE provide a link to any dated photos that illustrate these marks: ARROW and RAD on an original C1 upper radiator hose. (Please do not offer after market and NCRS publications as evidence.)

    Geoffrey Coenen

    PS I am also looking for the same photographic evidence that C2 and C3 also originally had the ARROW and RAD marks.

    PPS Lastly, I am also still looking for evidence of a repeating or singular GM [] = square marking on any 1970-1982 Corvette 5/8” or 3/4” heater hose.

    No rewards are offered, just useless information bragging rights.
  • Loren L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 1, 1976
    • 4108

    #2
    The Doctor offers an interesting question -

    especially in view of the parts offerings by various suppliers of parts that were NEVER used - can we hear from original owners AND Judging Team Leaders - those mysterious souls who NEVER have anythig to say on this board........

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    • Chuck S.
      Expired
      • April 1, 1992
      • 4668

      #3
      Aw, Darn It!...

      Loren, you mean know-it-all, blowhard, constant posters with lots of longevity aren't invited!!?

      Well, anyway, here's my "uninvited input"...I have been around GM and other brands of cars since the middle 50s, and I never saw any radiator hoses with an "arrow" or "RAD" until the middle to late 70s. I saw it then on a new 76 Buick Skyhawk built in Canada. The hose also had something printed in French...I figured it was to insure the Canajuns got it on right-side-up, sort of like instructions written on the bottom of a boot heel.

      But, it sure would be nice to hear from some original owners AND Judging Team Leaders.

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      • Mike E.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • March 1, 1975
        • 5068

        #4
        Re: The Doctor offers an interesting question -

        As a long-time team leader and head of three judging manual revisions, I can tell you that it is easier to get something into a judging manual than it is to get it out. I inherited several bits of information that were incorrect and extremely difficult to eliminate, because once someone has put it in, you have to try to backtrack and see why it was there, and who had entered it. That's not a complaint or an indictment, just a statement of fact. I've owned/judged/documented many 61-62's that were extremely original cars--have never seen the markings the good doctor asks about. But then, I haven't seen every car that came down the line, so I have a difficult time saying none ever came with those,---but no problem with saying I've never seen them and I have my doubts.
        Mike Ernst

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        • Loren L.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • May 1, 1976
          • 4108

          #5
          No, I think it's worse than that Chuck, I

          think that Team Leaders have been INSTRUCTED NOT to participate on this Board......which makes absolutely NO sense to me in the concept of NCRS as I understood from 1976 on....For example, one of the responders to this post, Mike Ernst, and I kicked around for X months the decoding of T-10 assembly dates - and we solved it....we also kicked around ( for about 2 years) whether or not 300HP '62's used a crossover on the exhaust - he finally found 2 original owners that had crossovers - and I added them to my car in time for 1980 San Mateo. I mean the crossover was there, not that it worked.......

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          • Clem Z.
            Expired
            • January 1, 2006
            • 9427

            #6
            Re: The Doctor offers an interesting question -

            in my years of working on GM high performance cars i have seen such markings on top rad hoses BUT i can not say if they were on corvettes.

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • July 1, 1985
              • 10485

              #7
              Re: No, I think it's worse than that Chuck, I

              I still think that there are too many barristers Argument for the sake of argument.
              Dick Whittington

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              • Geoff C.
                Expired
                • June 1, 1979
                • 1613

                #8
                My intent was not to berate the manuals

                Gentlemen:

                I was in no manner berating or otherwise casting stones at the organizations judging manuals. I do not know if this detail is even in these books. As an effete snob, know it all, I have honestly never owned any of these guides. Instead in most cases I have just relied upon my own eyes for this particular trivia.

                Geoffrey Coenen

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