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  • Donald Brunswick

    Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

    The power steering return line clamp at the pump is some sort of crimped band. Is there anyway to recreate this clamp including sources of the band? Or anyway to remove the current one for re-use? All replacement hose kits I've seen come with a worm style clamp.
  • Timothy B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1983
    • 5177

    #2
    Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

    Donald,

    I don't know of any way to reproduce the clamp you are talking about but I can tell you that it's the same part # as the clamp that holds the small radiator overflow hose that connects the radiator and expansion tank. If you look at swap meets I'm sure you will find some. Timothy Barbieri

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    • Timothy B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1983
      • 5177

      #3
      Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

      Donald,

      I don't know of any way to reproduce the clamp you are talking about but I can tell you that it's the same part # as the clamp that holds the small radiator overflow hose that connects the radiator and expansion tank. If you look at swap meets I'm sure you will find some. Timothy Barbieri

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43193

        #4
        Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

        Donald-----

        The clamp that you mention was used for the power steering return line-to-pump attachment beginning with the 1970 model year, although some very early 1970 models may use a screw-type clamp. The clamp was a special design which required a special tool to install. Of course, the factory had such a tool, but I don't think you'll find these tools too common otherwise. These clamps are a one-time-only sort of thing. To remove them the clamp has to be pried off or cut which destroys the clamp. In SERVICE, a screw type clamp is used.

        Curiously, the clamp, GM #5690839, was once available in SERVICE. However, it was discontinued in July, 1982. I don't know of a current source for it or, if you obtained one, how you would crimp it in an effective way.

        A shop which specializes in making up hydraulic hoses for construction equipment, aviation, etc. applications might be able to help with both the clamp and installation, though. If so, you could just bring the pump and hose in to them for installation of a clamp.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43193

          #5
          Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

          Donald-----

          The clamp that you mention was used for the power steering return line-to-pump attachment beginning with the 1970 model year, although some very early 1970 models may use a screw-type clamp. The clamp was a special design which required a special tool to install. Of course, the factory had such a tool, but I don't think you'll find these tools too common otherwise. These clamps are a one-time-only sort of thing. To remove them the clamp has to be pried off or cut which destroys the clamp. In SERVICE, a screw type clamp is used.

          Curiously, the clamp, GM #5690839, was once available in SERVICE. However, it was discontinued in July, 1982. I don't know of a current source for it or, if you obtained one, how you would crimp it in an effective way.

          A shop which specializes in making up hydraulic hoses for construction equipment, aviation, etc. applications might be able to help with both the clamp and installation, though. If so, you could just bring the pump and hose in to them for installation of a clamp.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15573

            #6
            Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

            If it is the clamp that is slightly oversize, and is crimped so that there is a small loop, and a larger loop going around the hose -- similar kinds of crimping are used on some constant velocity boots on front wheel drive cars. The crimping tool, which looks like a pliers with a single tooth on each jaw, is commonly available in the tool catalogs targeted at professional mechanics.
            The real challenge would be to find the material for the clamp, as CV joints are much larger diameter.
            Terry

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            • Terry M.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • September 30, 1980
              • 15573

              #7
              Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

              If it is the clamp that is slightly oversize, and is crimped so that there is a small loop, and a larger loop going around the hose -- similar kinds of crimping are used on some constant velocity boots on front wheel drive cars. The crimping tool, which looks like a pliers with a single tooth on each jaw, is commonly available in the tool catalogs targeted at professional mechanics.
              The real challenge would be to find the material for the clamp, as CV joints are much larger diameter.
              Terry

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              • Gary C.
                Expired
                • March 1, 1998
                • 236

                #8
                Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

                I am not familiar with the clamp, but if it is as Terry describes, then it is a common item on vintage Mustangs and the clamps and the crimping tool are available through National Parts Depot and other mustang sources. If I recall the hoses are about one half inch diameter on the mustang. It would be worth checking into as Mustang parts are much less expensive than our corvette parts, and you should find the clamps easily doable from than standpoint!

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                • Gary C.
                  Expired
                  • March 1, 1998
                  • 236

                  #9
                  Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

                  I am not familiar with the clamp, but if it is as Terry describes, then it is a common item on vintage Mustangs and the clamps and the crimping tool are available through National Parts Depot and other mustang sources. If I recall the hoses are about one half inch diameter on the mustang. It would be worth checking into as Mustang parts are much less expensive than our corvette parts, and you should find the clamps easily doable from than standpoint!

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                  • Dave Suesz

                    #10
                    Yes! It is available, plus...

                    ...the current offering is made slightly longer than the original to make it easier to install. Uses the the same tool as crimp style fuel hoses. Check with Glazier's Mustang Barn, I know for a fact they can supply this clamp.




                    Glazier's Mustang Barn

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                    • Dave Suesz

                      #11
                      Yes! It is available, plus...

                      ...the current offering is made slightly longer than the original to make it easier to install. Uses the the same tool as crimp style fuel hoses. Check with Glazier's Mustang Barn, I know for a fact they can supply this clamp.




                      Glazier's Mustang Barn

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11608

                        #12
                        Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

                        On my car, I carefully removed my original, and then re-crimped it on using the tool for CV joints as described by Terry (I used to be into VWs). It really does not HAVE to be ruined when you remove it if you're careful.

                        Patrick
                        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                        71 "deer modified" coupe
                        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                        2008 coupe
                        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                        • Patrick H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1989
                          • 11608

                          #13
                          Re: Recreate P/S Return Line Clamp

                          On my car, I carefully removed my original, and then re-crimped it on using the tool for CV joints as described by Terry (I used to be into VWs). It really does not HAVE to be ruined when you remove it if you're careful.

                          Patrick
                          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                          71 "deer modified" coupe
                          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                          2008 coupe
                          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                          • Chuck S.
                            Expired
                            • April 1, 1992
                            • 4668

                            #14
                            Here It Is...Finally...

                            Click on the Mustang, click on "View Online", click on "Fuel System", and advance Acrobat to bottom of page 84...shows proper clamp installation and pliers. Clamp is $5.95, pliers $24.95. Sorry, I couldn't get the link for the acrobat catalog...you'll have to click a few times.

                            Whew...Dave, I feel like I need a shower!




                            National Parts Depot

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                            • Chuck S.
                              Expired
                              • April 1, 1992
                              • 4668

                              #15
                              Here It Is...Finally...

                              Click on the Mustang, click on "View Online", click on "Fuel System", and advance Acrobat to bottom of page 84...shows proper clamp installation and pliers. Clamp is $5.95, pliers $24.95. Sorry, I couldn't get the link for the acrobat catalog...you'll have to click a few times.

                              Whew...Dave, I feel like I need a shower!




                              National Parts Depot

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