Factory Paperwork

[Michael M.]

This eBay auction is for a "reproduction" P-O-P.

The auction description states that if the owner lost his P-O-P, or if a new owner wanted it produced in his name, the factory could make a new one.

My question is, how did the factory do that without keeping all of the production records??? They must have kept them for awhile anyway.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34214&item=7917876244&rd=1

[Michael S.]

Re: Factory Paperwork

Selling Chevroloet dealers made the protecto-plates at the dealership on an addressograph. They were not made at the assembly plant. Many times in the 60's went a car under warranty was resold a new protecto-plate was made OR more often the dealer would just change the "dyno" tape name on the protecto-plate to the new owner's name.

When a new protecto-plate was made you will rarely see all the information that was on the "original" protecto-plate since the dealer probably does not have the delivery paperwork for the car listing engine, transmission, rearend, interior codes. All they were interested in was a plate with a name and serial number.

[Dave S.]

Re: Factory Paperwork

Mike,

I believe the Protecto-plates with the specific VIN and drivetrain etc. information were made at the assembly plant and affixed to the warranty book there. The warranty book along with the owners manual and other glovebox pieces(they varied from year to year) were shipped with the car to the selling dealer. When the car was sold, the selling dealer put the owners name, address and date of purchase on GM logo tape (in reverse) and affixed it to the lower part of the plate.
If a car was sold before the end of the warranty period there was a form that was submitted to Chevrolet so a "replacement" plate and new warranty book could be issued. Those replacement plates did have less stamped information on them. When the dealer recieved the new plate and warranty book he/she would put the new owners name and address on the new plate in GM logo tape just like the first book. The replacement warranty books were the same as the originals but had the words REPLACEMENT stamped on the cover.

[Michael S.]

Re: Factory Paperwork

Thanks for the clarification! I stand corrected.

Mike

[Rich G.]

Re: Factory Paperwork

Dave

I have the POP for my 68. The owner name is stamped on the plate in the same fashion as the VIN and other numbers. The font is a little smaller for the owner info. The first line is his name followed by ACC 44550 which I guess is his account number. The second line is street address and the third is city and state followed by DEL 7-31-68. This is all stamped on the metal plate.

Rich Giannotti

[John H.]

Re: Factory Paperwork

Rich -

The owner's name/address information was added in reverse-font Dymo plastic tape at the dealer; the assembly plant had no clue who the purchaser was when they stamped the original P-O-P; does your P-O-P have all the original component data stamped on it (VIN, paint, trim, engine, trans, carb, axle, etc.), or just the VIN?

[Dave S.]

Re: Factory Paperwork

Rich,
I've seen lots of protecto-plates and have never seen one like that. Lots of different things can happen and anything is a possibility, but as John points out the assembly plant was not aware of the actual buyers name. Maybe someone else can add something to this.

[Michael H.]

I agree with John Hinckley

The original machine that stamped the warranty plate was at the St. Louis plant, not the dealer. I have a picture of it in the plant. Hope I can find it. If so, I'll post it.

[Jeffrey S.]

Re: I agree with John Hinckley

I have a "Second owner" P-O-P in my name as I purchased my '69 from the original owner during the warranty period. The plate is affixed to a blue and white cardborard folder titled "1969 Chevrolet New vehicle Warranty and Owner Protection Plan". The plate has my name and address stamped into it with the VIN and "5-50", "223", "11-8", a Chevtolet bow tie vertical and a "2"under it. No other information is stamped in. No dymo label tape is there. It covers power train components for 5 years or 50,000 miles from date of delivery to original owner. On the back there is a notice to the second owner about a $25 deductible on each repair or replacement. Hope this helps.
Jeff

[Terry M.]

PoP

I have seen several of the replacement PoP that Jeff describes. The description he gives - no reverse Dymo tape, VIN only and no engine, transmission or differential data, and owners name in the metal plate - is typical, in my experience, for a warrantee transfer. The VIN and other type on the plate is a different font than original PoP, and there is no evidence that these were made at St. Louis, or other assembly plants. Please note that Jeff didn't claim it was made at St. Louis either.
I believe the original PoP was returned by the selling dealer with some paperwork to transfer the warrantee. Where it was returned to.... Your guess is as good as mine. I have some hunches, but those and a quarter will get you the use of the facilities at Carlisle.

[Michael S.]

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Terry,

Since I bungled the first response to this gentleman's question, what facilities will I get to use at Carlisle? I am leaving at O dark thirty tomorrow morning and do not want to miss anything.

See you there!

Mike

[Terry M.]

Mike your quarters are good

See the man with the gold tooth

[Michael S.]

Re: Mike your quarters are good

You be da man? When did you get gold teeth?

I like the "DUB'S" you installed on your Corvette.

See you this weekend. I'll be set up by the "can" with a silver plate and a smile.

Mike

[Jim B.]

Re: Factory Paperwork

I am an original owner of a 68 convertible. I have the original PoP that was issued to me. In 1968 there was a 5 year drive train warrantee on the corvette which was not repeated in 1969. I bought mine late in 68 and had the choice of a 69 or a 68 and chose the 68 for that reason as well as others.

The plate I have has the vehicle info stamped in the metal part of the plate at the top. This includes the VIN number and some extra letters "7" and R. My name and address is put on the bottom of the plate using a special dymo style tape that has the GM logo every inch or so in blue. The plate is attached to the last page of a grey book with the title "1968 Chevrolet Owner Protection Plan and New Vehicle Warrantee" The book has been punched on every page with the VIN number.

The vehicle info on the plate is hard to decipher. Certainly the color paint and the interior trim is on the first line, but there are three series of numbers that I have never been able to make sense out of. VO629HTR is one series and P8K02 is the other. There is also an A00705W.

I am sure these can be decoded but I have not been able to do so.

Does this help??

Jim Boudreaux
#38390

[Warren F.]

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Jim:

Those 3 sets of alpha-numeric characters are 1) engine stamping date & code, 2) the transmission date and code, 3) the rear differential assemby date and code. Others can decipher these for you, if you wish.