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  • Mike Cobine

    A Primer on the effects of Hurricanes

    This is a note I sent to work so that those who have only seen a little can grasp the magnitude of what just happened. It doesn't reflect the effects of Charley or the potential from Ivan.

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    Subject: Hurricane Frances

    For Marion County, where I live, Hurricane Frances came across Florida very slowly, allowing it to rip sections hard for much longer periods of time than most hurricanes. Here in Marion County, the eye was to the south of us and turned northward to the west of us, so we were on the upswing side of the storm the whole time. The upswing is the strongest section of winds. Typically on a west-moving hurricane, this is the winds from 3 o'clock counterclockwise to 11 o'clock when viewed from above.

    To give you an idea of the magnitude of a hurricane, the area impacted in Florida alone with damage is equivalent to all the land between California Hwy 1 and I-5 from San Jose Airport down to Santa Maria and that isn't completely accurate. Damage stretched from West Palm Beach on the south (and actually further with some damage) to Daytona Beach on the north, nearly 200 miles away. It swept across in a northwest arc of decreasing cross-section to where it was only about 100 miles wide when it hit the Gulf of Mexico.

    Up until a few hours before landfall, the target was still a stretch of coastline that was over 100 miles long, so everyone along nearly 300 miles of coast were potential victims.

    This was the largest mandatory evacuation in Florida history.

    There have been curfews from basically dusk to dawn over most areas. They have said you will spend the night in jail and you would be charged, no exceptions. Of course, the courts didn't open yesterday so anyone who ended up there probably could not get out on bail anyway.

    There are over 9000 power employees in the state from other states helping out.

    FEMA has set up a headquarters here in Ocala at the K-Mart Distribution center with help from the National Guard units from Texas and Alabama. Many of our NG units were down in the coast areas where Frances made landfall. President Bush is supposed to be here today and Gov. Bush is also supposed to be here,

    Saturday evening we began getting hit with feeder bands of severe thunderstorms and started getting the hurricane itself early Sunday morning, with most of it over by evening. We had wind gusts between 35 and 74 mph throughout Saturday night and Sunday. We continued with outer bands through Monday and was hit with the last of the feeder bands on Tuesday. Tonight is supposed to be the last of what was part of Frances.

    Over 6 million in the state were without power. Unknown how many without phones. This also meant most utilities were out, such as water and sewers. There were restrictions on water and sewers for those who had them because the pumping stations and the sewage lift stations were not working. Some areas had raw sewage overflowing because there was no power to pump it to the treatment plants. Many in Marion County began losing power Saturday and there are around 77,000 who still do not have it back in Marion alone as of Tuesday night. Roughly 160,000 are without power in Volusia County (Daytona Beach).

    Hurricane Frances spawned 74 known tornadoes, however there are many sections we have seen where the small tornados that rip at treetop level for a few blocks and disappear have been and have no idea if these were reported or not. Probably not.

    We are still getting hit by some feeder bands as Frances moves through Georgia. Yesterday we had a larger tornado in SW Ocala and moving northwest across town until it reached Anthony, about 10 miles away. It was reported on the ground in the SW section but I haven't heard about the rest of the track.

    We got telephone service back sometime around 11 Tuesday morning. Power came back Tuesday evening. 27 power crew trucks from Tennessee were in the SE quadrant of Ocala alone (our area) Tuesday trying to restore power. 43 power crew trucks arrived here Tuesday from SW Power Coop in Houston. Georgia Power & Light already was here.

    For us, we had some tree damage, lost a large section of fence, and the barn lost a section of roof. The water level in Jessica's pool has risen over 12 inches. It would have been higher but we have used pool water to flush toilets for the last couple of days. On our block, there are several trees down, with several blocking the road. Most of the food in the refrigerator and deep freeze is in the trash. Jessica's tree house split in two from the two trees it is in now being several inches further apart. The yard is covered in branches, enough to cover a 100 x 100 ft. lot about 4 foot deep.

    I have phones but no DSL. Sprint is reporting the CO was damaged and 14000 are without DSL from it. They have no estimated time to repair on the CO due to the load of work trying to restore phone service throughout the county. If someone has some pull with Sprint ...

    And another one, Hurricane Ivan, is moving along at a Category 4 strength with potential to go anywhere.
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  • Lee S.
    Very Frequent User
    • September 30, 2002
    • 156

    #2
    Re: A Primer on the effects of Hurricanes

    Sprint had a hurricane too! A whole lot of people are trying to help them help you.

    (I don't work for Sprint)

    I hope you survive Ivan. The thoughts and prayers of everyone in my family are with all affected by this particularly extreme hurricane season.




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    • Tom S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • March 1, 2004
      • 1087

      #3
      Re: A Primer on the effects of Hurricanes

      I went through Port Charlotte and Punta Gorda areas today. RT. 41 the main artery through Pt. Charlotte still had no traffic lights.All the people I talked to had not recieved any compensation from the insurance companys as of yet.Most had not seen an adjuster. This is all from Charley, which had wind's of 178 m.p.h. AT the Fawcett Hospital in Pt. Charlotte.Francess came through here on Sunday but that was just a bump in the road compared to Charley.A good share of these people don't have anything to hook the power to, let alone worry about DSL. They don't phones , cable nothing.You cannot believe the distruction and devastation unless you see it first hand.And all this happened August13th.Almost a month ago.Now Ivan is on the way I think everyone NEEDS TO SAY PRAYER!Maybe that will help.

      Tom

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      • Tom R.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • June 30, 1993
        • 4081

        #4
        Re: A Primer on the effects of Hurricanes

        Mike:

        Nice Synopsis...if I can refer to it as such. I'm north in Myrtle Beach, SC...just south of North Carolina and Hatteres that has been on point for most hurricane storms in the past five years. My day-to-day duties is emergency management for a three-county coastal area and we monitor these storms constantly. We currently have 60 employees along the coast.

        If you don't mind...I would like to cut and paste and forward to our people so share a feel for the experience. We can emphasize with the experience.
        Tom Russo

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        • Mike Cobine

          #5
          Remember, this was a note to work.

          I have phones but no DSL. Sprint is reporting the CO was damaged and 14000 are without DSL from it. They have no estimated time to repair on the CO due to the load of work trying to restore phone service throughout the county. If someone has some pull with Sprint ...


          Many were sympathetic, but a few were annoyed that I was slugging along on 35 kbps and couldn't run voice and data at the same time. It was more for them to understand that I was doing the best I could, not a "poor me" story.

          I count my blessings very much. My in-laws live in Port St. Lucie and their house was unbelievably untouched. The Florida room is intact, not a screen or plastic window out of place. They had a couple of bushes blown over and one shingle off the garage roof. Their power was off about 2 hours, according to the neighbors.

          This is almost unbelievable for an area the eye passed over.

          We have 17 oaks here, of which 14 are over 70 foot tall. Gauging by one I cut down a few years ago, I'd put them at probably 90 ft. The three that are not lost the tops to a tornado in 2001. Of these, 4 have the potential to not just hit the house, but do serious damage. I am very lucky none came down. Several on my block did.

          I have power. Many of the people from my daughter's school still do not have power.

          I am well aware of the devastation one of these hurricanes make. When Andrew came through in '92, many in Broward and Palm Beach went on with life with such minor inconvenience that most figured hurricanes were better to have than a thunderstorm.

          A friend was working down in Homestead and he asked me to work because he needed as many bodies as he could get on the job. We saw things that few others who were not residents or emergency people saw in there. Devastation that cannot be described. The best way to describe it is for someone to visit a landfill. It looked about the same.

          People who had lost so much, there was nothing left to lose - literally.

          I feel bad for those in the path of Charley, and especially those who were cross roads for Frances. My misery on a scale of 1 - 100 is about 5 compared to their 110.

          I didn't post this to get sympathy for me, but to give an idea to those around the country that can't grasp that a hurricane is anything more than a "thunderstorm".

          Besides, all the DSL cards in this area went south to Punta Gorda a couple of weeks ago to get that place up and running, which of course it isn't yet. That just came from my inside Sprint contact.

          They are still busy wiring generators into COs around the area just trying to get them back up and running to restore phone service.

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          • Paul Robinson

            #6
            Re: A Primer on the effects of Hurricanes

            Did your RIDE make it okay?

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            • Mike Cobine

              #7
              Re: A Primer on the effects of Hurricanes

              Tom,

              You may want to cut out the part about DSL and Sprint, since many will not understand that was more of a response to a few who couldn't understand why I wasn't back to work at full efficiency after our "thunderstorm".

              As a side note, I came home last night past Silver Springs and in the Silver Springs and Wild Waters parking lot were power trucks - lots of them. The lot was filled as far as I could tell. They were all different colors and logos, so that means they are from a lot of different companies scattered across the country. It is a good feeling to know so many from so many places come in to help.

              We took very little damage personally, and we were without power a very short time compared to many areas of the state. Ocala Electric has always been good at restoring power and have had the lines in good shape to withstand most storms. So I'm sure many of these crews are out in areas that are needed more and are just using this as a staging area each night.

              And there isn't much I can tell anyone in NC and SC, as they have been hit with more hurricanes in recent years than I have.

              It is more for those who have never thought about this, and for those who think of Florida as a "little" state. The area in Florida impacted by this last hurricane would cover some states yet people continue to think it was a small area.

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