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  • Chris E.
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    • November 3, 2006
    • 1317

    #1

    Numbers question

    I am starting to work on identifying my dad's '67 corvette and see if it has all the correct numbers and such. It is a L79, 4 speed, power brakes, no power steering, no air convertible, red/black/black with the hard top. I'm not sure what rear end it has yet (haven't gotten that far).

    Here's my questions.

    1. On the Holley carburetor, it shows a number on the front face of "3236". I have the NCRS Spec Guide. If I'm reading this right, that means the carb was built on November 19th, 1966. If that's right, I've got the wrong carb. If so, how do I find a "correct" one?

    2. How the HECK do I identify the "style, trim, body" numbers. The style is B06. Trim says "66 467 STD". Body says "S0081". Paint is easy, it says 974AA (rally red and AA for all '67s.)

    3. The alternator shows 1100696 - 42A 5C 6 -12 V neg. I see where 1100696 lines up with the 42 amp alternator in '65, '66, and '67. That explains the 42A in the stamp. Does the 5C mean a build date of March 1965? If so, how likely is it that an EARLY 67 roadster (build sequence 100183) would have an alternator like this?

    Thanks in advance guys.

    Chris
    Chris Enstrom
    North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
    1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
    1994 White/Black ZR-1, car # 103, National Top Flight, Palm Springs in 2021
  • Michael H.
    Expired
    • January 29, 2008
    • 7477

    #2
    Re: Numbers question

    Chris,

    I have a question. Are you sure that you recorded all of the numbers from your trim plate correctly? Take another look at the "style" info. to be sure.

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    • Wayne W.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 1, 1982
      • 3605

      #3
      Re: Numbers question

      St. Louis Body # 81 built Sept.6,66.

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      • Michael H.
        Expired
        • January 29, 2008
        • 7477

        #4
        Re: Numbers question

        Style should be "67 467", not "66 467". I have to asume that he copied it incorrectly but thought it would be a good place to start.

        The birthday calculator shows a Sept 02 build and this tag shows Sept 06 but I suppose that's close enough?

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        • Chris E.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • November 3, 2006
          • 1317

          #5
          Re: Numbers question

          I double checked, and the trim tag says "66 467". Does that mean this was a 1966 body????
          Chris Enstrom
          North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
          1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
          1994 White/Black ZR-1, car # 103, National Top Flight, Palm Springs in 2021

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          • Chris E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • November 3, 2006
            • 1317

            #6
            Re: Numbers question

            Here is a picture of my trim tag.




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            Chris Enstrom
            North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
            1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
            1994 White/Black ZR-1, car # 103, National Top Flight, Palm Springs in 2021

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            • Michael H.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2008
              • 7477

              #7
              Re: Numbers question

              Chris,

              I think I would begin by trying to verify the trim tag that is on the car. It is possible that it was stamped incorrectly at the St. Louis plant but it would certainly be unusual. If you could post a better quality picture of the tag, maybe some of the trim tag experts can look at it for us. I've seen mistakes on trim tags before so this wouldn't be a total surprise but it's best to be sure from the start. Hopefully, some of the 67 experts get involved in this.

              I tried to look up your 3236 Holley carburetor in an old Holley book but I couldn't find that number.

              Michael

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              • Jack H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1990
                • 9893

                #8
                Time to build a support library!

                These aren't the first questions you're going to have and building a support library for 'baby' will help you A BUNCH! Consider buying the NCRS Judging Guide (what do judges look for regarding parts/numbers?), the Assembly Instruction Manual (what did GM tell factory folks about how to build the car?), and Noland Adam's 'Corvette Restoration & Technical Guide, Vol 2' (a complete tutorial on factory buzz words, assy paper work, methods, parts, options, Etc.).

                WARNING! Once you have the nucleus of a support library, you're liable to become 'addicted' to Corvettedom, falling asleep in bed reading and starting to change into a 'techie'.....

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                • Rick A.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 1, 2002
                  • 2147

                  #9
                  Re: Time to build a support library!

                  Folks,

                  shouldn't Chris's (dad's) car have a POP? didn't 1967's all have them? also, shouldn't Chris be checking to see if he has the GRANDDADDY - the TANK STICKER? again, didn't they come out in 1967?
                  Rick Aleshire
                  2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #10
                    Re: Numbers question

                    What's the complete VIN number on the plate to the right of the trim tag? The 3236 on the carb is the Holley date code for an August, 1973-built service replacement carburetor (I'm the one who responded to your post on the other forum where you had a photo of the carb); what's the "List" number on the line above the "3236"? While we're decoding numbers for you, what are the two sets of numbers stamped on the machined pad just below the front of the passenger side cylinder head?

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                    • Gerard F.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • July 1, 2004
                      • 3803

                      #11
                      Re: Numbers question-On the Holley

                      Chris,

                      Are you sure that the Holley isn't a 3230 which is nearly externally identical to the 3810 (which is the "correct" carb for your 327/350HP). How about checking the number and posting the part number above the list number, the list number, date code, and your VIN. We'll get it identified.

                      I have had the belief that a 3139-1 was originally put on my 67 327/300HP, and I am trying to document carburetors other then a 3810 on '67 327's.

                      Jerry Fuccillo
                      #42179
                      Jerry Fuccillo
                      1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                      • Chris E.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • November 3, 2006
                        • 1317

                        #12
                        Re: Time to build a support library!

                        In response to Rick's question, I am getting geared up to pull the body this fall, and HOPEFULLY find a legible tank sticker (sound of Chris crossing his fingers).....
                        Chris Enstrom
                        North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
                        1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
                        1994 White/Black ZR-1, car # 103, National Top Flight, Palm Springs in 2021

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                        • Chris E.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • November 3, 2006
                          • 1317

                          #13
                          Re: Numbers question

                          In response to John Hinckley's question about the engine block pad #, it is 7100183 V0824HT. As I see it, the 100183 part of the first number matches perfectly with the last 6 digits of the VIN. Although I don't know what the "7" means, I'm assuming a 1967 model year designation.

                          The V stands for the Flint, MI foundry, the 0824 stands for August 24th, and the HT is 327/350 horse (L79), 4 speed.

                          How'd I do?
                          Chris Enstrom
                          North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
                          1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
                          1994 White/Black ZR-1, car # 103, National Top Flight, Palm Springs in 2021

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                          • Patrick H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 11372

                            #14
                            Re: Time to build a support library!

                            Chris,

                            Does the car run? Is it close?

                            You'll hate what I have to say, but if you're barely into numbers and understanding correct configurations my own thought is that you're a ways away from a body off.

                            If I were you, I'd drive the car for a year or two, finding out what works and what doesn't. Attend every NCRS related function you can, as well as Bloomington, Vettefest, etc. LOOK at original cars and take gobs of photos. Once you have a thorough understanding of what you are after as a goal, then go for it. Take photos of every single piece of the car before, during and after. Digital is cheap.

                            I spent 2-3 years taking pictures of 71s before I touched mine.

                            Of course, I know you'll ignore this but I have to give the same speech to everyone. And, most people come back telling me I had the right idea.

                            Good luck! Sounds like a nice car.

                            Patrick
                            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                            71 "deer modified" coupe
                            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                            2008 coupe
                            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                            • John H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • December 1, 1997
                              • 16513

                              #15
                              Re: Numbers question

                              Chris, you did fine - the "7" ahead of the VIN indeed denotes the 1967 model year, and you nailed the engine. The correct carb "List number" should be 3810 (stamped on the line above the "3236" date code).

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