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  • Doug #42330

    What does the "L-?" mean

    I'm new to the Chevy world and hear a lot about "L"-blank" type of engine. I have to admid that I have no idea what any of that means. Can someone educate me? Thanks...Doug
  • Michael H.
    Expired
    • January 29, 2008
    • 7477

    #2
    Re: What does the "L-?" mean

    Doug,

    All of Chevrolet's options carry a letter/number code and all are grouped using the first character to describe the option group. For example, A01 and A02 are tinted window options. M20, M21 and M40 are all transmission options and all options starting with the letter "L", such as L82, L88, L72 etc., are engine options. The letter "L" indicates the engine group and the number indicates which engine.

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43193

      #3
      Re: What does the "L-?" mean

      Doug-----

      The "L" used in RPO's does not denote any word, at all. Since 1963 GM has used an alpha-numeric coding system for regular production options (i.e RPO). In this coding system the first character of the code for all engine options is "L". This is followed by 2 more alpha-numeric characters to designate each engine. That's how it got starterd in 1963 and it continues that way today.

      The codes for each engine are assigned by someone in GM. In the old days, I believe that it was pretty much a random assignment from available code combinations. Codes were often reused---when one engine went out of production, the code might be assigned to another completely different new engine. These codes got to take on a "life of their own", though. So, these days, the codes are sometimes assigned for marketing reasons. "LT1" and "LS6" are 2 examples of codes that were reassigned for reasons other than "random selection".

      Option packages have since 1963 been assigned codes beginning with "Z". The code "Z-28" was simply a randomly assigned code from this series when it was first applied to 1967 Camaros with the 302 cid engine and other equipment that came with it. However, the "Z" series was usually not a series which denoted an engine by itself. It was used for a "package" of options. I don't know what, if any, "L" series code was assigned to the 302 engine used for 67-69 Camaros. Also, the 1969 ZL-1 is an anomoly. Reportedly, it was the option code for the all-aluminum big block engine. However, as I say, "Z" prefixed RPO codes were not generally used for engine designation alone.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Doug #42330

        #4
        Re: What does the "L-?" mean

        Thanks a lot for the explanations on the "L" engine codes, now I have an idea what everyone is talking about! DNB

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        • Chas Kingston

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          • Roger Legge

            #6
            Re: What does the "L-?" mean

            One exception to the "L" engine designations that comes to mind is the 1977 and 1978 Pontiac W72 400 engine. I believe the base 400 was designated L78 and the 220 net HP 400 was designated W72.

            Roger

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1997
              • 16513

              #7
              Re: What does the "L-?" mean

              Chevrolet Engineering Releasing generally grouped option systems by alpha code as follows:

              A = Glass
              B = Body side trim/moldings/paint stripes
              C = Heaters, A/C systems, rear defoggers
              D = Spoilers, paint stripes
              F = Suspension
              G = Springs
              J = Brakes
              K = Engine Accessory Items
              L = Engines
              M = Transmissions
              N = Steering, Exhaust, Wheel Covers
              P = Wheels & Trim
              T = Batteries & Convenience items
              U = Electrical & Radios
              V = Bumpers & Radiators
              Z = Specialty Trim and Performance Packages, Scheduling options

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              • John H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1997
                • 16513

                #8
                Re: What does the "L-?" mean

                Pontiac, Buick, Olds and Cadillac "did their own thing" in assigning codes to options vs. Chevrolet; there was no releasing standard across the corporation. The car divisions didn't even speak to each other in the 60's, and they all hated Fisher Body with a vengeance. But I digress...

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                • Patrick H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1989
                  • 11608

                  #9
                  Re: What does the "L-?" mean

                  The car divisions didn't even speak to each other in the 60's, and they all hated Fisher Body with a vengeance.

                  I tried to explain that, as well as the A-body production line assembly sequence (body, paint and front end sheetmetal especially) to someone recently and they thought it was the craziest thing they'd ever heard.

                  I guess at least a few things at GM are better than in the 60s.

                  Patrick
                  Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                  71 "deer modified" coupe
                  72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                  2008 coupe
                  Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Re: What does the "L-?" mean

                    Roger-----

                    "W" prefix RPO codes were used for option "packages" in much the same way as "Z" refix RPO codes were used. Pontiac used primarily the "W" codes for option packages and Chevrolet primarily used the "Z" prefix. So, the W-72 would have been an option package just like Z-28. Whether or not the engine that came with that package had a seperate 3 alpha-numeric character code I do not know. As I mentioned, the engine that came with the Z-28 package during the 67-69 period had no seperate code that I know of. After 1969 it did, though.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Roger Legge

                      #11
                      Re: What does the "L-?" mean

                      Joe,

                      Interesting. Pontiac did offer a WS6 package that consisted of a number of items for an optional suspension - wider wheels, bigger sway bars, stiffer springs, etc. I have a '78 WS6 that has a couple other 'package' options. The W72 400 was just the higher output 400 and was available in both the base Trans Am and the WS6 cars. Interesting idea about different naming conventions for the different divisions.

                      Roger

                      Roger

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                      • Art A.
                        Expired
                        • June 30, 1984
                        • 834

                        #12
                        Re: What does the "L-?" mean

                        Patrick, What makes you think----"I guess at least a few things at GM are better than in the 60s." this is the case?

                        Art

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                        • Patrick H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1989
                          • 11608

                          #13
                          Re: What does the "L-?" mean

                          Well, they tanked Fisher and Olds now to get rid of two arguing bodies.
                          Of course, then there's Saturn...

                          Patrick
                          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                          71 "deer modified" coupe
                          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                          2008 coupe
                          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                          • Grant M.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • August 31, 1995
                            • 448

                            #14
                            Re: What does the "L-?" mean

                            Although it wasn't broadly publicized, the Camaro SS package in the early '70s was option "Z-27", according to dealer order books.

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                            • John H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • December 1, 1997
                              • 16513

                              #15
                              Re: What does the "L-?" mean

                              It was in '67-'69 as well, but everyone just called it the "SS" package.

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