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  • Jack J.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 1, 2000
    • 422

    #1

    1964 frames

    Do all 64 frames have gussets welded to the rear kickup cross member? Thanks in avance.
  • Tracy C.
    Expired
    • August 1, 2003
    • 2739

    #2
    I know the early ones don't *NM*

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    • Mike M.
      NCRS Past President
      • June 1, 1974
      • 8288

      #3
      Re: 1964 frames

      gussets between the kickup and the x-member didn't appear on vettes till 68.mike

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      • Jack J.
        Very Frequent User
        • August 1, 2000
        • 422

        #4
        Re: 1964 frames

        Mike, my 64 frame's two side rails have bottom gussets attached to the cross member at or just before the rear kickup where they typically rot out. Jack

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        • Mike M.
          NCRS Past President
          • June 1, 1974
          • 8288

          #5
          Re: 1964 frames

          jack: i thought you were referring to the long(about 10") gussetts that run diagonaly from x-member to kick up and these gussets first appeared on the c-3's.sorry for confusion. mike

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          • Jack J.
            Very Frequent User
            • August 1, 2000
            • 422

            #6
            Re: 1964 frames

            Mike, as you might know, the gussets essentially create a shelf for all types of moisture-retaining debris which causes the inside side of the side rail to rot out. My frame has these gussets. The used 64 coupe frame that I bought does NOT have these gussets so that has me wondering if there was an engineering change during the 64 run. My car is an early May car. Thanks,Jack

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            • Tracy C.
              Expired
              • August 1, 2003
              • 2739

              #7
              Re: 1964 frames

              Jack,

              Page 146 of the 63/64 Judging Manual states....

              "1963 and 1964 frames do not have mounting slots for side exhaust, reinforcement gussets in the frame "kick-up" area or a depression in the front crossmenber for harmonic balancer clearance required by 1965 and later big blocks."

              You might try to verify your old frame is in fact a 64 by looking for any of the other identifiers mentioned here.

              tc

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              • Jack J.
                Very Frequent User
                • August 1, 2000
                • 422

                #8
                Re: 1964 frames

                Tracy, I can see right now that this is going to develop into an interesting thread. I'm the original owner of the 64's frame with gussets. The used 64 frame has no gussets and no metal tabs for rocker panels but does have slotted holes(4) and 4 hanger remnants for perhaps side exhaust? I will have to contact the previous owner to verify my assumptions.
                Jack

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                • John H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1997
                  • 16513

                  #9
                  Re: 1964 frames

                  Jack -

                  FWIW, the under-chassis photos of cars on lifts in Noland's book show no triangular corner gussets on a '64, and they're present on the same kind of photo on a '65.

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