I'm in the process of shopping for a good quality 1965 big block & know it's very important to make sure I know what I am getting and that the car is what I am told it is. I am trying to make sure that the car is a true big block car & someone told me to make sure it's built after March. It is #23316 so I am sure it is built after March. Also I should find out on the trim tag if it is a St. Louis car & also to find out the build date per the trim tag. The seller has given me the color codes 900 mm which is paint & STD for interior. in the upper corner was : S7670. The S7670 is the part I want to decipher and I do not know how to. Please help.
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Re: Deciphering trim tag on a '65
The "S"is for St. LOuis. the 7670 is the body number. IE: the 7670 convertable built that year. -
Re: Deciphering trim tag on a '65
Thank you for responding. Someone told me I can get the build date from the trim tag. I know the production number, and it was a late production car. I'm trying to make sure that the trim tag, is correct to the car, by comparing the build date on the trim tag to the production number. So is the build date anywhere on the trim tag, if so where?Comment
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Re: Deciphering trim tag on a '65
Tommy
The body build date is stamped into the trim tag. It will be a letter (for the month, A is aug, B is sept, etc) followed by the day of the month the body was built. This is usually to the upper left as you look at the tag.
If the car was the 23,xxx car built but the body number was only 7 thousand something, I would want to make sure that is consistent with the 65 total production numbers.
There is a relatively new complete book on mid year trim tags available from NCRS, well worth the price.Comment
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Re: Deciphering trim tag on a '65
Gary
So are you saying that the 7670 that came after the S on the trim tag is the body production number? And if so, this is not even close to the production number on the VIN number. I'm looking at a 65 big block car & I am just absolutely trying to make sure that it is originally a big block car. I have other indications telling me that it is, but I now want to make sure that the trim tag also matches up with the other information. It's not a matching number motor so that leaves me with just trying to make sure that it was originally a big block body.
Thanks for the help.Comment
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Re: Deciphering trim tag on a '65
The reason for the low body number, is that it is the 7XXX convertible made by St. Louis, There were about the same number coupes and there were bodies made at AOS. All of them will add up to the 23XXX number.Comment
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Re: Deciphering trim tag on a '65
There are many more things to look at other than the trim tag to verify the car. To learn them here would be time consuming and probably not complete. I am not an expert on this, but have read enough posts to know there is a BUNCH of stuff to look for.
Before you plunk down your money, you should find an NCRS judge or eqivilent to go with you to look at the car or at least talk to the seller on the phone.
These cars are not hard to fake and there is a real incentive to do it. If you truly want to be sure it's real, get somebody to help.
Just my opinion.
Rich Giannotti1966 L79 Convertible. Milano Maroon
1968 L71 Coupe. Rally Red (Sold 6/21)
1963 Corvair Monza ConvertibleComment
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Re: Deciphering trim tag on a '65
EXTREMELY good advise. Take someone that is intimately familiar with the cars, or hire someone that knows the cars. If you are not comfortable with your level of knowledge on a car, it could be money well spent, a lot of heartache saved later.Dick WhittingtonComment
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Re: Deciphering trim tag on a '65
This is a July car and probably a coupe. They only made 8100 coupes, so the 7670 is just about right. Look for the rear stabilizer bar, RPMs on tach,etc. People don't usually change this. I mean you don't purposely down grade a car.Comment
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Here's some other late '65 St. Louis convertibles
Tommy -- Wayne & Rich have given good info. Take someone knowledgeable along; 396's are several degrees more difficult to "build" than a '66 or '67 big block.
Get the BODY build date off the upper left corner of the trim tag. As this car is a St. Louis body, the code will probably be in the range of L28 or L29 (= July 28th, 29th).
Other known S-bodies in this late date range: #23552, L30, S7742; #23556, L30, S7752; #23564, L30, S7755.
To illustrate Wayne's point, there's a late St Louis COUPE # 23551, L30 with S-body # 4082, and also a crayon marking "Last Job", which MIGHT mean the last St. Louis built coupe body. Add the 4082 to the 7755 of convertible # 23564 and you 11837 St. Louis bodies. Double this total to include Ionia (A-bodies) and we get 23674, or 110 over the known production total of 23564. Obviously Ionia produced this number LESS bodies to result in the known final production.Comment
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