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  • David G.
    Frequent User
    • December 1, 2002
    • 99

    71 Tire Judging

    71 currently has Firestone Firehawk 225-70R15. Considering purhase of Coker Firestone Wide Oval F70-15.Confused about point deductions for these tires.Will Coker receive 10% deduction from 30 originality pts vs. 60% deduction on Firehawks? Deduction %'s seem to differ from Judging Reference Manual to Tech Info Manual. Thanks in advance
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: 71 Tire Judging

    The deductions will be as per the 6th edition of the Judging Reference Manual. The deductions refered to in the TIM & JG are out of date.
    Dick Whittington

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    • David G.
      Frequent User
      • December 1, 2002
      • 99

      #3
      Re: 71 Tire Judging

      Can somebody tell me what deductions on these two tires will be since my 2 manuals are out of date?

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      • John H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1997
        • 16513

        #4
        Re: 71 Tire Judging

        As I read the "white book", the Coker wide oval repros will get either a 20% or 30% deduction, depending on how closely they match the originals in terms of design, construction, tread width and pattern, and sidewall appearance. To get only a 10% deduction, they have to be EXACTLY the same as the originals except for the DOT markings.

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • June 30, 1985
          • 10483

          #5
          Re: 71 Tire Judging

          Unless Corkey has changed his tire, the sidewall lettering, tire construction, and tread differs quite a bit from the original
          Dick Whittington

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          • William C.
            NCRS Past President
            • May 31, 1975
            • 6037

            #6
            Re: 71 Tire Judging

            I believe the introduction of the Goodyear a few years ago moved the bar in terms of "acceptable" reproduction
            Bill Clupper #618

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            • Dave S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • August 31, 1992
              • 2918

              #7
              Re: 71 Tire Judging

              A couple of years ago Kelsey made a few changes to their very good reproduction Goodyear and now makes it "right on". They are the best you can get. I know it is made in Raised White Letter but I'm not sure about white stripe. As mentioned the Firestone reproduction is not very close.

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              • David G.
                Frequent User
                • December 1, 2002
                • 99

                #8
                Re: 71 Tire Judging

                Thanks everybody. Sounds like the Goodyears from Kelsey are the way to go for the best available reproductions.

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                • Gerard Q.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • February 1, 2000
                  • 284

                  #9
                  Re: 71 Tire Judging

                  Just for reference I received a 3pt deduction at a chapter meet last year and a 10 deduction at a regional meet this year with my 71 using the Firestone F70-15 repo's.

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                  • Chas Henderson #28127

                    #10
                    Try this;

                    Buy some nice steel belted radials - get five of them, unless you have an original, drive to the meet, you will probably break even on the point deduction, 30 points, and enjoy the thrill of driving a great car. Thats what I do when I have my car judged. Cheaper in the long run than buying poor handling bias tires.

                    Chasman

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