Corvettes: Something for Everyone

[Geoff C.]

Going once, Going twice ... SOLD

[Chas Kingston]

Re: Corvettes: Something for Everyone

Thanx, Doc, for the analysis and listing. I guess that I'll be watching some ESPN next month.

Ol' Geezer

[Jack W.]

Re: Corvettes: Something for Everyone

BJ dates: Wednesday, January 26 - Sunday, January 30, 2005

Sister lives in Scottsdale, need to convince the wife to drag the kids out there for a visit COOINCIDNETALLY at the same time for a little family visit

and then sit hard on my wallet, but will have the anti-spend-money-on-old-Corvettes-device sitting right next to me.

p.s. You will need Speed Channel, not on ESPN

[Geoff C.]

[Clem Z.]

the prices they get B/J

must be like vegas,they feed the players free drinks and they leave their common sense at home. JMHO

[Geoff C.]

[Clem Z.]

i have been to vegas and watch my friend

loose his bar because of the drinks. he had to sell to cover his loses. this was 30 years ago but i bet it has not changed.

[Duke W.]

WHAT THE...

... a '65 FI tanker with DRUM BRAKES!!! Is it one of the real 316 J-61 cars, or did they get swapped in the field? If real, I'd sure like to know the reasoning that went into ordering this option combination. Weird, but it certanly must be unique. Does it also have F-40?

Duke

[Tom P.]

Re: i have been to vegas and watch my friend

Geof,
Yes, that 290hp rating for a 60FI is correct. The ADVERTISED 315hp engine DID NOT make it for 60, so essentially, the same engine configuration as 59 was used in 60.

[Wayne M.]

It may be a legit drum brake tanker...

If it's the one I've had on my tanker survey (since Feb '82). Owner said '65 #03760, which (then) was silver/blk [900QQ, STD] and had a 365hp motor and 3.08 tail. Originally purchased by Raybestos-Manhattan Corp for lining tests and promotional purposes. Delivery dealer and first 3 owners known prior to 1977. He said it had F40 and heavy-duty brakes w/sintered linings, so perhaps a S.O. car.

But a lot can change in 22 years.

[Patrick H.]

Re: WHAT THE...

If it's the same one, a blue 65 FI car with drum brakes was owned by ProTeam a few years back. It's a combination I could never understand.
I'd bet it's the same car since the options and color seem to match.

Patrick

[Duke W.]

Re: It may be a legit drum brake tanker...

The '65 J-61 option substituted '63-'64 BASE (organic lining) drum brakes for the disk system. J-65 Metallic Linings and J-56 HD Brakes were not available RPOs in '65, so if it has J-56 brakes I would highly doubt that they were installed at St. Louis.

Contrary to popular belief, neither St. Louis nor any other assembly plant installed one-off non-regular production options on cars except for maybe some short runs specials (like the COPO 427 Camaros) and an occasional special paint color. One-offs are too disruptive to the production process, which IS THE PROFIT CENTER for GM. The engineers just created a COPO ordering whatever RPOs best suited their purposes, then made any required modifications in the engineering shops.

If it was used as an engineering development car by Raybestos the original configuration can probably never be determined unless some original paperwork shows up. Most engineering development cars, whether GM or aftermaket suppliers see many modifications and lead a hard life.

This sounds like another one of those "take it on faith" deals. I would be very skeptical about it's pedigree!

Duke

[Duke W.]

and...

... If it was originally a L-76 then it sure as heck is not an original FI, so you can take all the other "options" with a grain of salt. too.

For some reason people want to belief that a car like this is "a unique 'special order' car", which is very likely not the case. More likely: It's a kluge, but I bet some "collector" is going to pay big bucks for "such a unique 'factory built' (Yeah, right!) car".

The hype and people's willingness to believe it without one iota of documentation never ceases to amaze me.

Duke

[Tracy C.]

they buy 'em for the same reason they play lotto

maybe...just maybe it really is.....

[Geoff C.]

290 HP

I only looked at one source to check that HP rating: my 1989 version of the Corvette Black Book. Should have checked further. Thanks, I learned another new Corvette Fact today. I sure hope it has not pushed out some other Fact, but that is exactly what I think happens. Too many years in N...........CRS.

If that HP tidbit is in Noland's big Vol. 1 book then my Fact Gain/Loss theory is not a myth, since I read and even studied Noland's book right after it came out in 1980

Geoffrey Coenen