Hello,I have a distributor cap which reads on top Delco- Remy on the left side AS on the right side a capital R which is small in size. The bottom reads PATENT 2769047. I have no need for it and was wondering what application this cap is for and what the value might be. Thanks in advance.
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Re: distributor cap
It's considered 'correct' for some early Shark cars ('68 to '69) era. Prior to that, judges want to see 'Pat Pending' and no 'R on the cap. After that, they're looking for 'Pat Pending' AND an 'R emboss on the cap. -
Re: distributor cap
It may be "considered" correct for '68-9, but I was running a small distributor recurve business during that time and NEVER saw one with a Patent number until the nid-80's.Bill Clupper #618Comment
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Just going by JG Book text here, Clup.... *NM*
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Re: distributor cap
Bill,
Interesting thet you bring that up. In my dealings with Delco parts over the yaars the Patent number )047) "R" cap seemed wrong to me for the 68/69 vintage cars. A patent number (047) No "R" cap would be more logical to me. Wouldn't the patent number follow the Patent Pending which was the initial offering. ????Comment
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Re: Just going by JG Book text here, Clup....
It will be changed in the forthcoming revisions of the manuals.Dick WhittingtonComment
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Re: distributor cap
All I know is that "Pat Pending" was on the first externally adjustable caps, as far back as I can remember, and I have a cap I bought in '70 that was Pat Pending with the "R" The first use of the patent number was much later, as It was not on my '74 car when it was new.Bill Clupper #618Comment
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That's a piece of trivia I don't understand....
Having been a design engineer/engineering mgr, it was POUNDED into our heads by corporate legal, that we had to provide for a visual warning (Pat Pending) from the time of first commercial offering, through the period of patent application, until actual patent grant or final office action to reject the patent application.
Once a patent WAS granted, the visual warning changed from 'Pat Pending' to a disclosure of the actual patent (e.g. 'Protected by one or more of the following US Patents -list of numbers'). Failure to properly warn/disclose, could have a negative impact on the Patent Court's ruling regarding a patent's legitimacy should it be challenged....
GM wasn't a novice in the area of law and intellectual property rights! Terry's RIGHT ON regarding the patent mentioned being granted WAY back (filed in 1953, granted in 1956) and covering more than just a distributor cap with sliding window, point adjust, access.... So, I'd expect dist caps manufactured for sale in the period prior to '56 to bear a 'Pat Pending' emboss with caps produced after October, 1956 to wear a 'Pat. Number' emboss.
BUT, we pretty much know that is NOT how things happened. I'd find the inside story from those involved at GM Legal and/or Delco Remy at the time to be 'fascinating' as Spock would say. It's obvious there were different mold inserts used over time and these distributor caps were shipped in SUBSTANTIAL quantity for a LONG period of time.... What was the actual time line progress of things and why?Comment
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Re: That's a piece of trivia I don't understand...
Knowing how the "bean counters" at GM dictated cost savings, I would expect the "pending" mold was used until it wore out. And to the people at Delco what was a little logo in the overall scheme of things?Dick WhittingtonComment
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