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  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #16
    Re: 1967 gas tank sticker; Big Deal!

    Dave, Pagemaker, a half way competent computer operator, iced tea, and a microwave. Voila! Dealer paperwork to fool the masses.
    Dick Whittington

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    • Brent C.
      Expired
      • April 30, 1983
      • 23

      #17
      Re: 1967 gas tank sticker; Big Deal!

      Don, If you saw the "HA!" at the end of that statement, you should have known that I was just kidding. However; I bought the car in 1971, and the tire in question is the Loredo "rain tire" which I am relatively sure has never been on the ground. Thanks for reading though and keeping up with this thread. Merry Christmas, Brent

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      • Donald W.
        Expired
        • August 12, 2013
        • 190

        #18
        Re: 1967 gas tank sticker; Big Deal!

        Brent,
        Merry Christmas to a fellow 67 vette owner, do you have both stickers.
        Don

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        • Dave S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • August 31, 1992
          • 2918

          #19
          Re: 1967 gas tank sticker; Big Deal!

          Dick,
          How sad, but true. All we can do is try to catch the frauds.
          Merry Christmas and Happy new Year.

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          • Brent C.
            Expired
            • April 30, 1983
            • 23

            #20
            Re: 1967 gas tank sticker; Big Deal!

            No window sticker.

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            • Richard S.
              Very Frequent User
              • November 1, 1994
              • 809

              #21
              Re: 1967 gas tank sticker

              Brent,
              With the VIN number of your car and the Assembly Line Sequence Number,which is the hand written number on your Tank Sticker,it may be possible to verify your Tank Stickers' authenticity.

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              • Brent C.
                Expired
                • April 30, 1983
                • 23

                #22
                Re: 1967 gas tank sticker

                Rick, Thank you, but your response was a little vague. Maybe you could explain what you mean. I possitively know that the tank sticker is authentic because I removed it myself in 1973 before people were making clones. I am supposing that you have read the rest of the info in this thread. Thanx, Brent

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                • Richard S.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • November 1, 1994
                  • 809

                  #23
                  Re: 1967 gas tank sticker

                  Brent,
                  If you are "positive" your Tank Sticker is authentic, then the answer to your second question is that it is unlikely the options were omitted from the COC and I agree with Bob, that they were added to the car at some point in time. There are several NCRS members who have been collecting 1967 Tank Stickers for many years. From what little information I have from this thread,I do NOT think your car sat out at any given point in time while on the assembly line. With your VIN. number and the Assembly Line Sequence number(222 in your case)it may be possible to find out for sure.

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                  • Brent C.
                    Expired
                    • April 30, 1983
                    • 23

                    #24
                    Re: 1967 gas tank sticker

                    Rick, Thanks for the quick response. I am positive that the sticker is original, but I was just wondering (through all of this) if historical data ever showed that errors happened. Thanx, Brent

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                    • Jack H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 1990
                      • 9906

                      #25
                      Sure, errors happened....

                      folks who worked in the plant were only human then as now. But, in factory concours judging (both NCRS and NCCB) the focus in on TYPICAL factory production (the norm--NOT the exception). Hence, the burden of proof is placed upon the owner to justify why deduction(s) should not apply to cars that fall outside the accepted sphere of 'correct'....

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                      • Brent C.
                        Expired
                        • April 30, 1983
                        • 23

                        #26
                        Re: Sure, errors happened....

                        Jack, Thanks again, but how are cars judged that don't have a tank sticker? The earlier years didn't have one. What if a person had a perfect original car, had a gas tank leak years ago, replaced the tank, and didn't think saving the sticker was important; is he up the proverbial creek? Thanx, Brent

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                        • Chuck S.
                          Expired
                          • April 1, 1992
                          • 4668

                          #27
                          Your Question Is Morphing...

                          Since tank stickers are typically on the top of the gas tank, they are not judged. Further, the car not expected to comply with any tank sheet either existent or non-existent. At NCRS meets, cars are judged according to their presenting existing configuration.

                          If your car has options that the KNOWN AUTHENTIC tank sheet doesn't have, you can bet your life that they were installed afterwards by knowledgeable enthusiasts. When having your car judged (or selling it) you are probably better off to keep quiet about the tank sheet. Let the judges determine if the options are authentic. If you don't get deducts because their inauthenticity can not be determined, you skate...good as factory.

                          That being said, adding options a car never had is contrary to NCRS principle of restoring/preserving it in the condition it left the factory.

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                          • Jack H.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 1, 1990
                            • 9906

                            #28
                            Re: Sure, errors happened....

                            Since tank stickers didn't come along until '67, LOTS of Corvette owners are in that 'boat', Brent.... Remember, there's no place on the Flight Judging Score Sheets for the tank sticker to be judged/scored, so ALL cars are treated alike!

                            The benefit of the doubt goes to the owner at NCRS, and 'proof' is only needed when this/that aspect of the car falls outside the judges' perspective of TYPICAL factory production. Things in this category would include a '63 showing up with 2-spoke knockoff wheels the current owner swears are factory original to the car, a mid-year with side exhaust that appears dealer/owner inspired in terms of installation vs. factory original, special paint jobs or non-recommended color combinations, VERY rare factory option(s) on the car, Etc.

                            In the main, we live and let live at NCRS and there's a boldface disclaimer on the back of each of our Flight Award certificates that takes the 'monkey' off the judges' back. LIBERALLY paraphrased, it says, "Looked good enough to fool us today!".

                            On the replacing the gas tank issue, consider the opposite situation.... Suppose the car was REALLY purchased to be professionally raced. This would most likely be a high horse 'critter'.

                            One of the first things that probably happened to it upon delivery would have been for it to be disassembled and customized for the track. Useless creature comfort weight would have been deleted (interior, seats, Etc.) and MANY factory stock parts removed in favor of race competition certified items. These would certainly have included stock highway seat belts/shoulder harness and the conventional, non-fuel cell, gas tank.

                            So, in the period these cars were being produced there WAS a very limited, secondary market source for low milage, factory original parts from race conversion houses. That's why a REAL collector interested in purchasing a REAL rare/high-horse Corvette doesn't much care about a tank sticker (they never did have a VIN number on 'em) or a factory concours award certificate...he/she is looking for the car's true source documentation to go along with the car (sales sheet, order form, prior owner affidavits, Etc.).

                            But, NCRS routinely accepts tank stickers as 'proof' of factory original configuration of a car despite the fact that it's NOT air tight proof....

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                            • Brent C.
                              Expired
                              • April 30, 1983
                              • 23

                              #29
                              Re: Sure, errors happened....

                              Jack, Great info! Thanks a bunch, Brent

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                              • Brent C.
                                Expired
                                • April 30, 1983
                                • 23

                                #30
                                Re: Your Question Is Morphing...

                                Chuck, Well put and understood. Thank you very much, Brent

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