Very early Air Condition '63 coupe?

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  • Mike Cobine

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    Very early Air Condition '63 coupe?

    Here is a red '63 coupe VIN 30837S104622 that the owner claims is an original air conditioned '63, one of 278. Now I can see that the VIN is far too early for normal production, and some parts appear to be passenger car parts, but I guess it is always possible.




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  • Tom Parkinson (5280)
    Frequent User
    • February 1, 1982
    • 69

    #2
    Re: Very early Air Condition '63 coupe?

    No chance!! Run!!!

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    • William Clupper (618)
      NCRS Past President
      • June 1, 1975
      • 6037

      #3
      Re: Very early Air Condition '63 coupe?

      Replacement compressor for sure, any documentation?
      Bill Clupper #618

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      • Mike Cobine

        #4
        Re: Very early Air Condition '63 coupe?

        I knew a guy in the '70s, Bob Patterson of East Alton, IL, that had a red '63 coupe with air conditioning and fuel injection. I don't know if either was original to the car. I almost wonder if this might be that car, sans the FI.

        While some will add AC to a car, it is so much work. I almost wonder if it is an Air car that has a different VIN now.

        A lot of flags on this one.

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        • mike mccagh

          #5
          Re: Very early Air Condition '63 coupe?

          haven't seen what i believed to be an orig 63 c-60 with a vin as low as this example but i've been unable to find a plastic surgeon of the class of 63 capable of removing the "fool" tatoo'd on my forehead.mike

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          • Tony Merendino

            #6
            Re: Very early Air Condition '63 coupe?

            You have a replacement engine out of a 73, A/c unit might be original to the engine but without documentation how can you tell if it is originally an A/C car?

            Even if it was an original A/C car it would need a correct engine and dated A/c setup. Since there were only a couple of hundred A/C cars made that year finding a correctly dated A/C unit will be a challenge to say the least.

            If you like the car buy it as a NOM 63 SWC and leave it at that all the rest is probably hype at best. It amazes me that someone can claim that this is an original A/C cpe when there is no engine, A/C, or documentation original to the car.

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            • Steve Giannangelo (24659)
              Expired
              • June 1, 1994
              • 229

              #7
              Re: Very early Air Condition '63 coupe?

              I agree with the crowd... very unlikely the A/C is correct, no documentation, wrong motor. The car is an NOM SWC that looks like a fun driver, and the buyer should not pay for anything beyond that.

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              • Mike Cobine

                #8
                Re: Very early Air Condition '63 coupe?

                There are several tell-tale signs if the car is an original AC car and I don't see them. I had one guy write me about this car and he was asking the right questions of the guy, but the guy had not responded to him.

                According to Noland Adams' book, the parts were being designed about the time of this car, so it would be possible that some very early parts were prefitted to one as a test, but not probable.

                Odds are someone added the parts back when only an FI car was worth money. Odds are the AC parts are all non-’63. The compressor and muffler are definitely non-’63. The compressor bracket may be wrong but can't see enough to be sure. The wiring harness on the right fender is wrong. Odds are a bunch of stuff up front is wrong also. The emergency brake bracket is wrong. He doesn’t show enough of the rest to tell.

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